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3rd August 2010, 08:19 PM #1
QuickCanoe Building in Hungary - az elsö SecPerc Kenu épitése Magyarországon
Dear Boatbuilders,
I am happy to inform you that the first Quick Canoe is under construction in Hungary. So far I spent 3 hours 45 minutes and the hull is in shape now.
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The plywood is five-layer 5 mm poplar(?) plywood. The tables were 1700x2500mm - so I needed only two (39 AUD each).
A few photos about marking and cutting:
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Planing the panels, and joining them to length
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Coating the interior
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And duct-taping the hull
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3rd August 2010, 08:25 PM #2
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And this is where I am now. Yesterday I was filleting the joins inside - it was 30 Celsius degree so the epoxy started to get hard to quickly - I have never saw myself working so quickly with filleting, well, it is a quick canoe. BTW the plans in Hungarian language will be available on my Web-site soon. Boatbuilders on my forum seem to be already excited.
I plan to glass the whole bottom because I have a piece of glass cloth which fits there and the Danube river where I am gonna use it has rocky riversides.The first Hungarian amateur boat-building Web-site, www.hajoepitok.hu
Modern, kisméretű, fából készült hajók építési útmutatója magyarul - kenu, vitorlás hajó, horgászcsónak
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3rd August 2010, 11:36 PM #3
Ha ... we were building the same boat at the same time Csaba.
This is my boat being built at Duckflat.
I was struggling with winter problems and you were struggling with summer problems.
Good thing is both of us made a lot of progress. But I think you made more!
MIK
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4th August 2010, 12:36 AM #4
Yes, I also realised this after posting my report - great.
What about a competition? Who can build it in less time and finish earlier? The winner receives a copy of Hungarian building instructions of Quick Canoe.The first Hungarian amateur boat-building Web-site, www.hajoepitok.hu
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4th August 2010, 09:20 AM #5Cliff.
If you find a post of mine that is missing a pic that you'd like to see, let me know & I'll see if I can find a copy.
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4th August 2010, 05:24 PM #6
Hi Csaba,
I am back to working on it once a week when I visit duckflat. Got the seats cleaned up and the centrespreader in today and most of the boat sanded ready for paint, but I didnt' have a lot of time.
MIK
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4th August 2010, 06:30 PM #7
Yesterday evening I glassed the outside of the hull. I was struggling with the overheated epoxy again - much sanding for today (because the glass got hard before I managed to smooth it properly everywhere).
I want to finish it until Saturday because I will be traveling and the boat has to be stored outside, therefore I need to make it waterproof. First launch is expected next Tuesday if everything goes cool.The first Hungarian amateur boat-building Web-site, www.hajoepitok.hu
Modern, kisméretű, fából készült hajók építési útmutatója magyarul - kenu, vitorlás hajó, horgászcsónak
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5th August 2010, 12:54 PM #8
With my canoe in AustraliaI did my norrmal trip up to Duck Flat yesterday where I am building the canoe. I had some things to do other than boatbuilding but got the outside and inside glass tape sanded down smooth, removed and filled all the temporary fastening holes, planed down the gunwales, inwales and skeg and made and fitted the centre spreader.
Next time (next week) I will fit the end decks, permanently fit the seats and possibly get the outside painted.
Michael
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23rd August 2010, 09:37 PM #9
Howdy,
After getting back from Croatian holidays my Quick Canoe building advanced a bit.
I fitted the gunwales and the keel (keel and skeg are made of one piece of kitchen worktop, joined to length).
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My favorite tools:
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I am somewhere at 10 working hours. Still need to work on keel, seats and deck.
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I have a question: Does it make sense to reinforce the keel (to the whole length) with glass tape?
Cheers
Mezix - CsabaThe first Hungarian amateur boat-building Web-site, www.hajoepitok.hu
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25th August 2010, 01:12 PM #10
The glue join is enough to make the keel/skegs structural. If you noticed the bottom of your Eureka getting marked and bumped a couple of layers of glass tape along hte keel might help protect the quick canoe's keel.
The other way is just wait for it to get too much damage, then plane the damage off and glue a new lamination on.
MIK
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15th September 2010, 05:05 AM #11
Howdy,
The first Hungarian Quick Canoe is ready now. It was about 15 hours to build, but I was not in a hurry and installed a few extra parts (eg. front buoyancy tank).
I did not fixed the front seat either because I plan to build in a drop-in sailing rig, and I don't know its position yet.
I will make the maiden voyage next weekend. Hopefully I will report satisfying results.
I plan to paint it as well but first let's see how it performs with the keel-skeg and if it will be needed to plane it down a bit.
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15th September 2010, 01:04 PM #12
WELL that settles it.
Gotta get started now. In its utilitarianism, I see beauty. Nice job!
Choosing ply: Marine grade AB Fir plywood ($62), or Marine Meranti ($49)? Mik, what do you suggest? The Okoume in my part of the state is at $114 a sheet for 6mm. No thank you. I don't know what happened it used to be $69.
Or PDR311, what do you think? Or anyone?
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16th September 2010, 12:16 PM #13
Howdy (nice pics Csaba - that is really great!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Christophe, I would go for the meranti - it is a bit heavier, but a canoe at 65lbs is still OK. With my one I ended up building of 4mm meranti because the sheets were so stiff that they were not too much different from 6mm gaboon. Or at least not too different from the 5mm gaboon that used to be available. However if running rivers with a bit of speed (not that this is a true white water boat by any means!!!) the 6mm might be good insurance.
The fir checks very badly - but the meranti has a stable surface.
MIK
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16th September 2010, 06:17 PM #14
I like the front buoyancy tank.
We considered putting in front & back tanks that could double as dry lockers but didn't have the time, I might still do it.Cliff.
If you find a post of mine that is missing a pic that you'd like to see, let me know & I'll see if I can find a copy.
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17th September 2010, 01:31 AM #15Prototypes-R-Us
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In your part of the world, there is a 5 ply luaun underlayment plywood called Sureply that has been used extensively in the Puddleduck circles. It is made with a waterproof, but not boilproof glue which shouldn't be an issue as long as you don't paddle around in boiling water. This will not make for a long-lived craft, but will make for an inexpensive one, as this plywood is about 20 bucks a sheet. There are 5 year old PDR's made from this stuff still going strong, and they are not epoxy encapsuled.
I only recommend this product if price is a consideration. If you want a boat that will last a really long time, perhaps the $120 you would save on ply would not be the best economy.
Rick Landreville.
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