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2nd March 2008, 06:43 PM #16
For other readers ... I don't recommend this method. The spar gauge makes sure that at each point along the spar that the spar ends up being an octagon.
The spars are tapered - ie the cross section changes so the spar guage is the best way of accounting for this.
Looks like SOLing has done a good job - but I do recommend using the gauge that is in the plans.
Best wishes
Michael
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3rd March 2008, 12:02 AM #17
Not using a gauge
Hello MIK,
thanks for the reply. You are right, using a gauge is better.
However, as I do not have a table saw, circular saw or band saw I had to do the ripp sawing for the tapering by hand . Considering the small amount, that had to go for tapering, I first made a straight octagon, than straight 16-sided, then round.
The last phase was tapering it, all by hand planing it. I took about two hours for the boom and lug yard. And I liked it (and that is why I build the boat, just for the fun of buillding it. But I am also looking forward to sailing if, of course!)
SOLingWer sich nicht bewegt, fuehlt die Fessel nicht /Rosa Luxemburg
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4th March 2008, 01:19 PM #18
(I had to write that for other people SOLing - glad you are enjoying the process!!!)
MIK
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28th January 2009, 01:35 AM #19
Some more pics..at last
After a long delay (almost all planned for...) here some more pictures on the building.
Right now the situation is this: all parts are ready (mast, boom, yard, centre board case, centre board, rudder), most parts are epoxied or glassed, hull is assembled, except for the bottom. sail has been ordered and delivered (Ken O'Brien from Australia: faster and cheaper (including taxes) than when ordered in Holland! Maybe better too?). Next weekend the bottom goes.
The neighbors were quite surprised, that something that starts to look like a real boat came from all those sheets. I will have to do morein the future to keep suprising those nice beer drinking (part of the delay) German neighbors.
here the pictures: (follow later: problems with the connection)Wer sich nicht bewegt, fuehlt die Fessel nicht /Rosa Luxemburg
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1st February 2009, 08:16 AM #20
The pictures
Notes by Boatmik
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A beautiful centreboard.
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Bulkhead - number 2 I would guess - without framing.
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Joining up the bottom using "Gravity Clamps!". Can also use the plasterboard/drywall screws as suggested in the plan. A couple of fine nails will prevent any accidental movement if not using screws.
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Hull shell assembled. After lots of preparation a boat suddenly appears.
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View showing the aggressive bow that gives the boat so much character.
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Attachment 95319Wer sich nicht bewegt, fuehlt die Fessel nicht /Rosa Luxemburg
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3rd February 2009, 12:35 AM #21
THANKS Mike for the comments you added: I was too fast with sending the pics to the server. If I was as fast with building...
Here some more pics. Yesterday I put the bottom under. It really looks like a boat now. And a nice one too. It looked good in the pictures, but in real life it is even better. I cannot wait for the finishing and then: The Open Dutch GIS Championship?? If Joost is ready for it...but when will I be? still planning for 2011, but maybe 2010...2009???
Attachment 95514the hull with one gunwale attached
Attachment 95515the hull with 2 gun wales attached. still a dry run.
Attachment 95516 hull turned, rough planing of the chine logs done.
Attachment 95518chine logs and bulkheads planed. Checking the bevels.
Attachment 95519 dry run of the bottom
Attachment 95517 hull ready, waiting for the glue and bottom.
Attachment 95521 bottom ready for glue
Attachment 95520 idem
Attachment 95522 bottom glued on hull. waiting to dry.
Next week: fitting the centreboardcase, making a nice bow, partners, rear tank seat and mid seat. No glueing, only lovely woodwork! (I have some problems with the epoxy: I notice I am very sensitive to the epoxy, so I have to be careful to take a lot of precautions: gloves, mask, safety glasses, cream etc etc...But it is worth the trouble!Wer sich nicht bewegt, fuehlt die Fessel nicht /Rosa Luxemburg
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3rd February 2009, 04:52 AM #22SENIOR MEMBER
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Good to see the progress made on SOling's GIS!
I am definately up for a Dutch GIS meet and great. Unfortunately I am still stuck in the finishing phase after a major mishap when painting the outside of the hull.
Let’s say it like this: I shouldn’t have ignored my girlfriend’s advice and the boat would have been in the water months ago!
Lessons learned in the process: always make sure the surface is very, very clean (using water with ammonia diluted in it rather than pure cleaning spirit) before painting, definitely ensure that the paint is fully cured before sanding it, and always check whether dilution of the paint is required due to low temperatures.
After this disastrous first try to paint the outside of the hull, I decided to strip the boat of all layers of paint (a lot of scraping and sanding) and to start allover. The outside of the hull was faired again with epoxy filler and re-coated with an additional 2 layers of epoxy (the outside was already coated with the recommended 3 layers of epoxy).
Then, lots of sanding by hand ensured a smooth hull without dents and such. She now has some 6 layers of primer and final coats on the outside. One final coat on the outside is to follow (I am not happy with the last layer which should have been the last one) and 5 coats of varnish on the inside should finish her.
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3rd February 2009, 12:25 PM #23
Haha ... what a great idea ... two GISs in the Netherlands ... make sure you get some windmills or a field of Tulips in the background guys!!!!
But in the meantime .. it is nice to see that you are both getting on with the building and overcoming some setbacks to get closer to launching when the weather gets nicer.
Best wishes
Michael!
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16th February 2009, 07:39 PM #24
more pictures: the final stages of building
Here some more pictures. Side supports for the front and rear tank, mast support and partner, fitting the seats. All parts for the hull are ready, this week the assembly of the seat supports, the seats! Oh, donot forget the epoxy for the inside of the tanks, and the bottom. And the outide of the hull. And the filling of all the holes. And the fillets..aAnd.. But first things first: skiing in Switzerland next week. Then some work . Then starting in march: the gunwales, breasthook, knees, sanding, varnishing, painting...: I will keep you informed.
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bottom completed: planed, rounded. A major milestone in my planning
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some home made casters to make moving the hull around in the shop easier. I will make the supports a bit higher: easier on my back!
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the centreboard, but this time glued to the hull.
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working on the mast partner and mast support.
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the mast partner ready to be put into the hull
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the mast support into the hull
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a jig to mark the side supports for the front and rear seat.
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the same. The clamp is just for the picture.
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the side supports for the seat. Some bevelled, some not
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side supports front seat with clamps.
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centreboard and gusset
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rear seat supports with clamps
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some extra pressure on the supports for the front seat. this method works fine!
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the same method with the rear seat supports
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mast partner and supports glued, using cheap gravity clamps, as Mike calls them.
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all seats fitted in place. took more time than I thought: measuring, planing, measuring, planing...
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rear seat
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mid seat, centreboard, gusset
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front seatLast edited by SOLing; 16th February 2009 at 09:30 PM. Reason: adding text
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5th April 2009, 11:12 PM #25
Almost the last stages of the building..
Yesterday I attached the inner gunwales to the hull. All that has to be done is glueing the front and rear seat to the hull. And then just the painting... Maybe some sailing this year? I will keep you informed.
I also bought all the stuff (blocks, sheets etc) for the rigging. The rudder fittings were not the ones I wanted to buy, as the pins of the fittings are quite long. And the hole for the helm is quite narrow... So I will have to make the pins smaller or the hole in the transom bigger. Anyone another idea (except buying new fittings, I thought of that)??
I could cheaply buy an excellent Andersen ratchet main sheet block ( I love the Andersen winches) at a shop that stopped selling dinghy equipment. But even with that: buying a boat is almost the same as sailing one: you need time and money and you never have enough of either one.
Here some pictures:
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Outer gunwale attached
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spacers on the (future?) starboard side
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inner gunwales attached
For the inner gunwales I used almost all clamps: as i wanted to have mahogany gunwales. How stupid can one be? But i really looks nice. That is the best part. of it.Wer sich nicht bewegt, fuehlt die Fessel nicht /Rosa Luxemburg
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6th April 2009, 12:34 AM #26
Looking Great Soling!
The front end the boat looks very aggressive from that angle!
BTW .. have you got a piece supporting the front edge of the middle seat yet ... it should be 19 x 45 with the 45mm vertical.
Boat looks great!
MIK
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6th April 2009, 06:41 AM #27SENIOR MEMBER
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Hello Soling,
Good to hear that fine progress is made on your GIS!
I see a GIS get together coming up here. Would be nice to sail two GIS's on the same stretch of water. Perhaps we can comply with Boatmik's request for windmills in the pictures...
Keep up the good work.
Joost
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6th April 2009, 06:08 PM #28
another mistake..
Wer sich nicht bewegt, fuehlt die Fessel nicht /Rosa Luxemburg
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6th April 2009, 06:15 PM #29
Two GISs in Holland..
hello Joost,
I am working hard to get the boat ready this year. (Which by the way causes a small problem, as my planning was for 2011. And my wife already told me, that she expects met to have all my work done withing the planned period in the future....).
It really would be nice to have a come together somewhere. The windmills can be photoshopped if necessary! As I live in Limburg we have some windmills, but none near the water. But a nice picture with a windmill on the grass can be made within 4 km of my house. and the Lakes of the river Maas are from there only 3 km.
Maybe you have better ideas? BTW, where did you buy the sail?
greetings
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7th April 2009, 07:41 AM #30SENIOR MEMBER
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Hello Soling,
The sail was purchased from Duckworks in the States. They also provided me with the pintles and gudgeons and some very nice leather to cover the spars where they touch the mast. The USD exchange rate has been very favourable for us the past year, just like the GBP exchange rate...
I have used normal pintles (not the type with the long pin going through both gudgeons) and made the hole in the transom a bit bigger to be able to easily remove the rudder box (still an appr. 10 cm distance to the deck).
Next time I go sailing (might be a few weeks though due to other engagements), I will make some detailed pictures of the fittings and post them on my Flickr page.
Regards, JoostLast edited by Joost; 7th April 2009 at 07:51 AM. Reason: Photo link did not work due to HTML being turned off at the bottom (no option to turn it on)
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