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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOLing View Post
    Hello Mik,

    I have made a support from WRC 19*19. Maybe I should add some more to get a 19 * 45? or will a 19 * 19 do?

    Good to have your knowledge..!

    thanks

    SOLing
    Howdy SOLing,

    Yes, it needs to be deeper. If you can add another piece to make it a total of 45mm deep it will be strong enough.

    Best wishes
    Michael

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    Default More Progress!

    This Easter I was able to make som real progress, as you can see by the pictures! Great sailing on the beautiful Grass Lakes of Germany
    (I just could not resist the hoisting of the sail).

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    GIS sailing on the Grass Lakes of Germany
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    GIS moored at the Eifel house
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    The support of the mid seat made stronger
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    The breasthook, just glued
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    The not so famous Dutch Shipyard at Euscheid
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    First painting job: varnishing the yard and boom
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    Glueing the rearseat
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    Glueing the frontseat
    Wer sich nicht bewegt, fuehlt die Fessel nicht /Rosa Luxemburg

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    Hey! I like the way you made parallelograms with your gunwale spacer blocks.

    Good looking Goat, that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleAgesMan View Post
    Hey! I like the way to made parallelograms with your gunwale spacer blocks.

    Good looking Goat, that!
    I have to admit, I stole the idea from you! So thanks! But it took quite some time to make them and to make the spaces in between look good, spacxe the evenly also because I made the spacer where the rowing dolls a bit wider.

    SOLing
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    I'm sure I wasn't the first to cut angles on the spacers. I must have seen it somewhere on the intertubes, at some point.

    Mine are cut at about 22 degrees IIRC. I was trying to avoid a drastic difference in the area of the gluing surfaces as you set them back and forth. I doubt that is critical, though.

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    Good to see the progress SOLing!

    If you continue with this pace, you should be on the water in a couple of months rather than 2011!!

    Joost

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleAgesMan View Post
    I'm sure I wasn't the first to cut angles on the spacers. I must have seen it somewhere on the intertubes, at some point.

    Mine are cut at about 22 degrees IIRC. I was trying to avoid a drastic difference in the area of the gluing surfaces as you set them back and forth. I doubt that is critical, though.
    It took quite some time to make nice and even space between the spacers, keeping into account the frames, knees and the extra long spacer I made on the place where the rowing locks will come (as I am not a woodworker but a tax attorney, I like to build in extra safety on dangerous spots)

    I made the spacers about 45 degrees, in that way the sides alway were parrallel. And it was easier to make)

    I really liked the report on the building of your GIS. But I think I will take less time sanding and painting. More a like workin boat finish.

    SOLing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joost View Post
    Good to see the progress SOLing!

    If you continue with this pace, you should be on the water in a couple of months rather than 2011!!

    Joost

    hello Joost,

    I made the planning before actually strating the building , as you should do. Then I decided to work only 4 days a week. Well, I did all the normal work in 4 days, as it turned out. So I had a day extra for building the GIS. Unfortunately I told my wife I did not work on wednesday any more. So she reminded me, that I had made some promises on maintaining the house, visiting my mother, my mother-in -law, some friends, and then the garden also needed some work... But all in all: that extra day speeded up the work quite a lot.

    But there is some difference in opinions what can be done, once the GIs is finished. I am looking for a new project. So is my wife. I will keep you informed, if my project comes through. Otherwise.. just the Open Dutch GIS Championship.

    SOLing
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    Default More pictures: the final stages of building

    I have been working on the GIS today (wednesday). Beginning with the final stages of the building: making everything nice and round and smooth.

    Today I did the spacers, the gunwales, the breasthook and the rear hooks. It took the whole day, so not much progress, but to have a good looking boat the painting must be good. And for the painting to be good the underground has to be good. And for the underground to be good you have to work hard with chisels, sandpaper, planes, patience...

    With some parts the glue didnot fill completely the gap. I will take care of that later when filling other holes (wood dust epoxy filler I think).

    Here are the pictures. Not very exciting, but part of the job.

    Attachment 103062

    The spacers. The bigger one is for the rowing lock

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    The "stem protector" and the end of the outer gunwale. Made of mahogany. Both will be varnished.

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    The rear hook

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    As I worked on the gunwale, I noticed I had forgotten to remove some glue from the portside. This is the stem side..

    Attachment 103066

    and this the stern side. That will take some time to repair

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    The breasthook.

    I am still thinking of a way to attach the mooring rope: the idea of bitingmidge is nice, but the " protector" of the stem of mahogany I made, is to small. And making a hole in the breasthook for the rope looks awful (it took so much time to make this part). Any one an idea?
    Wer sich nicht bewegt, fuehlt die Fessel nicht /Rosa Luxemburg

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    I believe you are referring to the towing eye Peter has in Gruff. I tried to put mine in the same way but I probably won't use it for anything other than securing the bow down on the trailer (or towing in an emergency of some sort).



    I have the same small piece of mahogany as an outer stem that yours appears to have.

    Before I put on the outer stem I drilled the holes for the bow eye through the stem and edges of the 6mm ply:



    Once the outer stem was glued on I used the holes in the true stem as a guide and using a long tapered bit I drilled out through the outer stem. As you said this piece is too narrow to take the bow eye so I cut a flat where the eye needed to go, almost back to the ply edge, then rounded the ends and shaped everything with a rasp. The bow eye thus sits about 9mm back from the rounded front of the outer stem. It was never my intention to leave this piece bright--it's painted white along with the rest of the hull.

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    Your breast hook is really nice--you even carried the angles of the last spacer blocks into the edge and then made a nice transition across to the other side. I was lazy when I put mine in, or in a hurry. I figured to give it a nice shape after it was installed but that was a mistake. Once in I realized I had made extra work so I left mine straight.

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    I had intended to drill a hole for a small line through the breast hook, rounding the edges nicely on the top. The line would just be secured with a stopper knot. But I never got around to drilling that hole and after all of the epoxy and varnish coats were on I was loath to mess it up. My Goat will live on a trailer but on those rare occasions I might want to tie alongside a dock I'll just pass the line through one of the spaces in the gunwale.

    I did put holes in the quarter knees, however. Not round holes though, I just cut a little from the inner corner where the sides meet the transom. The gaps are sized to take a small line, secured in place with stopper knots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleAgesMan View Post
    I had intended to drill a hole for a small line through the breast hook, rounding the edges nicely on the top. The line would just be secured with a stopper knot. But I never got around to drilling that hole and after all of the epoxy and varnish coats were on I was loath to mess it up. My Goat will live on a trailer but on those rare occasions I might want to tie alongside a dock I'll just pass the line through one of the spaces in the gunwale.

    I did put holes in the quarter knees, however. Not round holes though, I just cut a little from the inner corner where the sides meet the transom. The gaps are sized to take a small line, secured in place with stopper knots.
    Thanks MAM, for the kind words and the reaction to my question. Good idea to cut al little corner from the quarter knee. That will be a little difficult right now for my woodworking skills...But maybe a small round hole in the same place will work and lok nice too.

    SOLing
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    I am still thinking of a way to attach the mooring rope: the idea of bitingmidge is nice, but the " protector" of the stem of mahogany I made, is to small. And making a hole in the breasthook for the rope looks awful (it took so much time to make this part). Any one an idea?

    with my GIS, I'v done a hole 12 mm diameter across the inner stem parallel with the back side of the stem around 8 cm over the bottom. I will glue a short piece of tube (stainless) inside, so if needed, I can fit a 8/10 mm shacklebolt in or thread a rope directly through.
    You will see only a small black spot at the bow and there is nothing to hook accidentally in/under.

    My helling (Shipyard) is in Bonn (125 km north-east of Euscheid), I would like to have a closer look to your GIS. Would you mind?

    Greetings - Jörn

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    Hello Joern,

    Thanks for the idea. looks good. I never thought about putting a short tube in the stem!

    No problem visiting me in Euscheid. Give me a PM and I will send you my Handynumber and the adress.

    I will be in Euscheid next wednesday and next weekend. But just give me a call to maken an appointment

    Greetings

    SOLing
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    (If you don't move, you don't feel the chains)

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