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  1. #61
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    Hi Steve,
    How do you calculate steps per unit for a rotary. Been looking over the Mach3 site but can't jag the right words on a search to turn anything up.
    Also what units are we calculating -one degree or one roatation?
    Cheers,
    Rod

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    Wow that is some rotary axis.

    Looks expensive... but very nice. Wonder if it would be even better with a servo on it?

    Units for a rotary axis are degrees. So presuming 2000 steps per motor rev.

    2000 x 50 / 360 = 277.77777

    Greg

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    Hi Greg,
    Thanks for the calculation.
    That gives it quite a good resloution.
    It was an impulse buy and I paid more than I would have preferred to pay but it is top quality. I have bits for a rotary axis including a 5 inch three jaw but not the time to put it together so this gets me going.
    As you say a servo would work better than a stepper for higher rotational speed.
    Cheers,
    Rod

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    Well done greg, sorry rod I had gone to bed.

    Wrapper is still probably one of the better programs out there still for us hobbyists

    Im about to pull my machine apart rod, I need to completley redesign my workshop, running out of room very fast

    Newest toy arriving soon and no where to put it,

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    Hi Steve,
    Nice tool and cutter grinder.
    I can make room in my shed if it is too hard for you.
    Cheers,
    Rod

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    Has anyone looked at just outputting the file instead of wrapping it via a program?

    I mean there is no reason the 4th axis knows that it is rotary. As long as the steps are calculated for the diameter of the work piece, then a flat 2.5D gcode output would work, or am i off the mark here?

    Nigel and I should have our 6 units finished soon, they kind of look like Rod new units, but his is very nice and shiny and ours are bland green -: (

    Q. Does the wrapper program compensate for tapering round and does it also compensate for the depth of tool cut in this taper (if it does it)

    /M

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    CNCWrapper does only two things.

    It scales the positions of the axis that is wrapped according to the diameter/radius/circumference that was entered.

    Also it changes the axis designation as required. For example from X to A in my case.

    There are lots of ways to wrap an X/Y plane toolpath.

    Having tried lots of them, I find CNCWrapper and the Aspire wrap PP to be the easiest and most intuitive.

    Greg

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    Default Finally - Five 4th Axis units

    Well, i have to say it took us ages but we finally put the finishing touches last night to the 4th axis units that we were building over the last 5 months.

    Steppers come from Chris, the chucks were sourced from Asset Plant and the reduction (10:1) were surplus from Nigel stores (Thanks Nigel)

    Most of the unit was re-machined to some degree to produce a unit that had as little slop as possible.

    Next is to make something on it. A job for the long weekend

    /M

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    Hi Mike,
    Nice work. Looks like you are going to have some fun on the weekend.
    Cheers,
    Rod

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    Legacy CNC Woodworking - Home

    I liked some of the products produced with the rotary axis and especially the idea of embedding the rotary axis within the machine. My unit will allow for this and I think i'm going to look at the feasibility of doing it.

    /M

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    This was a good read... handy info for those starting a 4th axis.

    Brad.

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    Has anyone here enquired about the cost of the doughty Drive?

    DoughtyDrive

    Or know anything about this software?

    The CNC Toolkit - Creative Toolpath Control

    Brad.

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    HI brad I got a quote some time ago couple of years maybe when he first started out I think it was around the 1k mark he priced it in US$ and I think our currency was quite low at the time but it was some time ago so get a quote off him and see what price he is putting on them now maybe they are more reasonable due to the AU$.

    I actully dont like that he doesn't put a price up on his site, but I guess that way he can price it as he likes depending how busy he is.
    I like to move it move it, I like to move it.

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    I'll see what they're selling for now.

    Brad.

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