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23rd March 2018, 07:39 PM #16
A lot of bureaucrats and unproductive unions clipping that ticket...
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23rd March 2018, 08:16 PM #17GOLD MEMBER
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Yeah, good question. I guess Roger Webb has to get his commission out of the sale some how or other and it would appear that he's not paid by the Chinese factory, although there may be some fee paid by them directly to him, who'd know. As a margin the origin charges are not much so I guess it depends on whether the buyer feels they have got some value out of his assistance, direction, back up support and expertise.
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27th March 2018, 10:19 AM #18Member
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I emailed Roger, as you suggested, to ask for the certification and his reply was this: "Your router was not made in Australia so therefore an Australian certification is not applicable"
Every time he opens his mouth, he condemns himself. I have now reported the matter to Energy Safe Victoria. They have indicated that their Tassie counterpart will need to look into this but suggested that it may go as far as a recall of Roger's machines in Australia.
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27th March 2018, 11:07 AM #19GOLD MEMBER
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Anything sold in Australia or connected to a 240VAC power connection is required by law to be Australian Certified.
Further it also has the have a CTick Mark for Electromagnetic Compliance.
Additionally he (or his company) has to be registered with the EESS.
I think that there is very big problems here...
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27th March 2018, 12:57 PM #20
Hang on, Roger isn't the importer, Dougshed is.
Roger may have sold it to you (or atleast acted like a middle man) but he may as well have lived in Uzbekistan for all it matters (he is just an email address and phone number).
Am I wrong?
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27th March 2018, 01:26 PM #21
I agree that it looks like there are very big problems,
but unfortunately, I suspect that in respect to electrical compliance it is Doug who is the "official" importer of his machine and thus has the compliance problem.
Doug purchased the machine direct from the Chinese manufacturer. The purchase may have been on Roger's recommendation, but the actual transaction was with the Chinese company. Doug paid the shipping invoice.
Doug paid the import fees.
looks very much that Pacific Tooling is operating in a way that shifts any regulatory or compliance burden onto the customer.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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27th March 2018, 01:46 PM #22
FYI
I've just done a search on ASIC's register of business, company and trading names -- I can't find an entry for "Pacific Tooling"
I can't find an entry for "Pacific Tooling" on the ABN register either.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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27th March 2018, 02:50 PM #23
Well Roger MUST have an ABN to operate in Australia, so ask him what that is.
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27th March 2018, 03:19 PM #24regards from Alberta, Canada
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27th March 2018, 04:08 PM #26
I don't really know.
I thought that ABNs were part of the GST compliance regime, and not a separate entity. If a business doesn't quote an ABN, the payee is supposed to retain 10% of the invoice amount and forward same to the ATO. Not that that would mean much to the average retail consumer.
but as I said, it would need an accountant to advise what the rules areregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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27th March 2018, 04:58 PM #27
In any event, regardless of whether Roger made money through his company or not, I suspect that he made 'some' money and so he is liable to be taxed on that amount. Did he put in a proper tax return for this I wonder? ... Hmmmm.
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27th March 2018, 05:18 PM #28
I don't think we should go there.
Better to concentrate on Doug's dilemma.
If as appears probable he is legally the "importer" of his CNC, then he is the one responsible for electrical certification and electromagnetic compliance.
I shudder to think how much obtaining both certificates might cost.regards from Alberta, Canada
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And yet I know of a tafe collage that imported a 3 phase heavy duty drill press which arrived not working (brand new...) with every wire purple, including earths.
It was rewired by the staff and no certs were even attempted to be obtained to my knowledge.
Apologies for dragging this off topic - Cava, do all items require certification or would rewiring count from a REC? I understand that the lack of EM compliance may have answered my question, but I am curious as it has been a topic of discussion at work before. My opinion has always been if it doesn't have the magic tick on the item, sparkies should use the 10 foot barge pole rule.
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