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9th September 2010, 12:12 AM #1
My Junkbot
G'day all,
After being away from the forums for some time, I have decided to make more of an effort and try to contribute more and encourage people who may be considering building their own CNC machine.
I have never really seen another CNC cutter or miller working except for a few U-tube vids. Since building mine I have seen two CNC plasma tables up close and personal, but don't know anyone who has a CNC router, although I believe a cabinet making shop in town uses one to make kitchens.
Whether this has been an advantage or a handicap in designing my table, I am unsure. The main priority was to build a machine on a very low budget as proof of principle and then upgrade with a new build, which I am still aiming towards.
This meant using whatever components I could scrounge and recycle, and being a Mechanic on week days, most of the components are used car parts, hence the name JUNKBOT. Due to space constraints I designed a usable bed area of a half sheet (1200mmx1200mm) and Z travel of roughly 150mm.
Originally the main purpose was to use my plasma cutter to cut shapes from sheet metal, but I tried to design it to be as universal as possible. Good thing I did because I soon found out that Junkbot with its unshielded cables all leading back to a computer doesn't get along with High frequency start on cheap chinese plasma cutter.
So I mounted my dremel on it and tried a small 3D carving in a MDF scrap, and found it worked quite well after a few teething problems.
The dremel was a bit slow and underpowered, so I proceded to mount my full size makita on the Z. This yielded quicker although often frightening results, as the stepper motors would stall long before the router, and the Z struggled to pull out of heavy cuts. This meant that while the controller would think it had lifted at the end of a cut the bit was still buried in the timber then it would plunge for the next cut and the now smoking bit was driven even deeper and all the axes would stall at once. On one occasion it actually stalled the bit, sending a shower of sparks from the collet over a table piled with fresh sawdust.
My first advice to anyone building a sizeable machine INSTALL AN E-STOP. Mine has had quite a bit of use.
Eventually I picked up a second hand trimmer cheap and found a happy medium there. This was recently upgraded to a makita die grinder.
Components used in this build should be fairly easy to gather if you can befriend a local mechanics shop, as most of them are throw away items from normal servicing.
I used - 3 timing belts two of mine are Subaru the other is Hyundai
- 3 cogged idler pulleys (Subaru)
- 1 scissor jack (easy find at any wrecking yard)
- Whipper snipper flexible drive cable (try your dump shop)
- 6 micro switches (donor microwaves)
- 2 slack adjusters (these are used on truck brakes I bought mine new for $20ea) to build worm drive reduction boxes.
- 19 flat timing belt idler pulleys
Motors and power supplys came from ebay.
Controller from Geckodrive (G540)
Computer $100 from dump shop
Old computer tower case
E-stop expensive but vital
Some of the steel was bought as well as some bearings and shaft.
Two 48v relays to match power supplies were kindly donated by a sparky mate in exchange for some automotive assistance.
I spent 12 months gathering most of the parts and about 2 weeks solid putting it together, and more hours modifying since. There were many compromises to allow for design around what parts I had to hand, but I am quite happy with the performance and accuracy.
I have carved photos, 2D pictures and 3D pictures on Timbers, plastics and aluminium.
Hope someone finds this usefull, and If you have been considering building GO for it! If I can do it you can!
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9th September 2010, 02:36 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Excellent work Thunknker.
Proof is the results and your projects are great. Top bit of scrounging and Aussie ingenuity.Cheers,
Rod
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9th September 2010, 06:59 AM #3
It can only be a junkbot if it puts out junk, I see no junk
Fantastic work and good to see another over to the Dark sideI like to move it move it, I like to move it.
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9th September 2010, 09:08 AM #4
Hi Thunknker,
I am impressed. Great job, great results. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers
Pops
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12th September 2010, 10:29 PM #5
Thanks all for the kind words.
I hope I can give back some of the inspiration I have taken from the forum.
I would also love to see someone elses creation in person if anyone was near enough for a day trip.
Cheers,
Tim.Simple solutions are only simple in hindsight.
See my rig here- https://www.woodworkforums.com/f170/my-junkbot-123715/
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3rd October 2010, 11:11 PM #6
My Junkbot Now with PLASMA!
I'm so excited,
1 year and 9 months after starting my build, today I got the plasma cutter working.
Now it cuts and carves. Just a little fine tuning now and I can start my next build.
Yippee!Simple solutions are only simple in hindsight.
See my rig here- https://www.woodworkforums.com/f170/my-junkbot-123715/
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4th October 2010, 07:01 AM #7
You know it didn't happen unless we see a video
I would come for a drive for a look but it its just a little far.I like to move it move it, I like to move it.
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4th January 2011, 07:50 AM #8Member
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I'm guessing the problem you had with your plasma was from the HF interference?
What sort of plasma cutter are you using? What did you have to do to shield the pc and electrics from the HF?
I'm just starting to put my table together and am hoping to be able to use my plasma with it, but it's an old contact start machine so not ideal for cnc.
I'll be doing my best to shield against RFI in my build, but any hints on what you found worked or didn't would be appreciated
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4th January 2011, 11:28 AM #9Novice
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A very clever design indeed!
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4th January 2011, 09:05 PM #10
HF Interference
G'day Festy,
The interference problems from my "Cut 50" ebay plasma turned out to be unsurpassable. I went to all sorts of extremes with grounding and shielding to try to overcome the interference problems.
It was the High Frequency start that caused all the drama. If you have an older machine like my ZipCar with contact start without the HF start, you have a good chance 'with a bit of good code for starts' to get some reasonable results on very clean material.
In the end I sold my 'Cut 50' and bought a hypertherm Hypermax 45.
This machine with an air drier cost more than my whole CNC table, including software and computer, but the pilot arc and total absence of interference are well worth it if you are going to use it much.
Although mine hasn't nearly paid for itself yet, I am currently planning a 3m x 1.5m rebuild with Torch height control, a decent pendant, and much larger motors to get rid of the backlash in my homemade reduction boxes, which work OK for the router but jerk leaving jagged edges with the plasma, especially at higher feed rates.
I will still use timing belt as Rack and Pinion For the X & Y axis drives, but hopefully in a much more compact fashion.
Cheers,
Tim.Simple solutions are only simple in hindsight.
See my rig here- https://www.woodworkforums.com/f170/my-junkbot-123715/