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17th June 2010, 12:16 PM #1
Routing services to help an old arcade.
Hi all, I recently aquired an old Atari Star Wars cockpit arcade to restore with my twelve year old son. It needs a complete restoration but is well worth the effort as only 2500 of these where made world wide back in 1983. All the electronic components can thankfully be sourced in the States (alas very expensive though) the cabinet itself however was made from vinyl wrapped chipboard and has not stood the test of time at all. Due to the removal of the T-moulding edge the edges of the cabinet have deteriorated beyond repair meaning a like for like replacement is our only option. These replacements could be cut by traditional methods however I think a CNC approach would give exact mirrored copies for both sides of the cabinet. In all I need 2 x 5 different pieces cut on a CNC router. Original material was 19 mm chipboard and the largest panel is 1400 x 1000. I have some original panel that can be traced or copied and tracings of the panles that are missing. I guess my question is does anyone have or know of a Cnc router in the western suburbs of Melbourne that could help me out with this? Do you think using a router for this would be very expensive? Already looking like a prohibtively expensive project so shhhhh....dont tell my wife. I have a brother-in-law who does CAD for a living so would getting him to draft the plans reduce cost and if so what programme would he need to use? Thanks in advance for your help. I hope I haven't biiten off more than I can chew.
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17th June 2010, 04:51 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi, I don't think anyone here has yet to build a 1400mm long machine but if you can get them done in CAD most companies should accept a DWG or DXF format, when I got some stuff waterjet cut he accepted my 2D DXF file and used that.
MDF might be better suited to replace the Chipboard. (Would be best to seal it)
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17th June 2010, 05:11 PM #3
I think you'd be best using one of the side panels as a template from which you can make a new template from a piece of ply. Then with some sanding to the new ply template getting it all nice and neat, use the ply template to cut 2 new sides from MDF using a flush trimming router bit in a router.
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17th June 2010, 08:09 PM #4
Assuming it looks like this, (in french) use the existing sides as templates - it's not complicated enough/not high enough volume to really warrant going the CAD route (the amount of time measuring and making it into a CAD file would be greater than the time required to route around the edges with a template following bit in my opinion).
To throw a spanner in the works...if you are doing it for enjoyment rather than eventual sale as a collectable, you could save a fair bit by getting a semi-recent PC (last 3-4 years should be fine, it doesn't have to be all that high spec) and installing MAME and finding an Atati Star Wars ROM image to load onto it. This'll let you use nice cheap components rather than hunting up technology from 20+ years ago!
There are plenty of PC compatible game controllers (even coin mechanisms), and this'll give you a machine with not only the Star Wars game, but any others that you like the look of!
You'll also need to do the side panel artwork if you want to replicate the feel of an arcade machine; do a google for Star Wars vector art (this refers to vector art files, which open in something like Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape and can be scaled up without loss of definition) and find some suitable/tasteful images. These can be printed on self adhesive film by most of the places that do conference and exhibition display printing - probably cheaper than trying to find the original transfers.
See also: http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Cockpit
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17th June 2010, 11:30 PM #5
I mean no disrespect when I say there is no way on gods earth I would commit the blasphemy of converting this original and highly collectable cabinet into a mame cabinet not disimilar to the one I am writing this email on. Wow that sounded more savage than I intended....sorry. To state an analogue it would be like putting a 250 crossflow into an original xy gt falcon. I do however defer to your opinion (very humbly so) that a template and copy bit in a router is probably the best coarse of action. Thats why I came onto this forum, to ask for the opinion of highly skilled craftsmen so I thankyou for you help. If there was a way to repair the old chipboard I would to keep as much original as possible. To far gone I suspect. I thankyou for your research into my woes finding new parts for a 27 year old video game thankfully those with more skill and patience than me have been working hard on resolving the problem. It appears also that I am not alone in my pursuits, have a look at the work these guys do RAM Controls - Reproduction Arcade Parts. Thanks again, just to clarify and evidence myself as a complete noob when it comes to woodwork, there is a router bit which can scribe out a desired panel from template? I do own a router but confess to having never used it before ( talk about blasphemy eh?). Thanks agin.
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18th June 2010, 02:52 AM #6
Pattern following bit -
Here for 'how to' - http://www.accesswave.ca/~derekn/rou...mplates%29.htm
and here for drooling over types/sizes - http://www.carbatec.com.au/flush-tri...ing-bits_c9459
If you are really keen on fixing the old chipboard, to preserve collectable value, it is sort of possible.
Basically you drill small holes, inject in epoxy adhesive to consolidate the weak stuff, clamp the thing down to the right thickness, and wait for the epoxy to set. All depends on how much damage there is. Post some pics!
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18th June 2010, 08:50 AM #7
Bewah
Have you visited Aussie Arcade - Australian Retro Arcade, Pinball and MAME Forum ??
There is a lot of people who have done this sort of thing there
Warrick
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18th June 2010, 10:27 AM #8
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6th August 2010, 01:13 AM #9Senior Member
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Hi Bewah
how did you go with your sides
think again ch4is
if you still need sides routed and you can do the cad files i have a 15ft x5ft router
I am in horsham so it may be a bit of a drive for you but as a starwars and old arcade fan would be happy to help out
cheers
Harty
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6th August 2010, 03:11 PM #10Member
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Harty,
I think your router only does 1250 x 3690mm
but that should still do it...
Jayson.
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6th August 2010, 03:52 PM #11Senior Member
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correct you are jayse was late when i wrote my post but with so many cnc machines its hard to keep track of what ive made
cheers
harty
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