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25th November 2018, 10:51 PM #16GOLD MEMBER
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If you go the route of buying a second hand flat bed router, check the linear rails for wear. If they have distinct grooves in them, the machine has been run "dirty" or poorly maintained and the bearings will most likely be fubar. With chewed up rails, the machine runs like a real bucket of crap ie. You can feel the machine ride up and down the bumps in the rails.
FWIW running a CNC is 95% programming in CAD/CAM and the last 5% is done by the unskilled lacky at the machine. I was actually knocked back for a job because I was over qualified. They just wanted someone to load sheets and clear away cut components.
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28th November 2018, 08:27 PM #17Taking a break
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29th November 2018, 04:34 PM #18GOLD MEMBER
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Seen it on two different older Multicams. A 2400x1200 bed and a 2400x1800 bed. Each in different businesses. One was purchased second hand from "somewhere", and the other was brand new cutting acrylics for signage.
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29th November 2018, 07:42 PM #19SENIOR MEMBER
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So...any other brands for recommendation? I’ve got a meeting with the boss tomorrow to discuss $$$.
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29th November 2018, 08:30 PM #20
If you're talking $$$ with the boss, perhaps concentrate less on the actual make of machine and more on the desired (or required) capabilities.
Things that I think might be "key decision criteria" are:
speed -- is it desirable for the machine to be capable of completing a significant cutting task inside the length of a standard lesson.
cutting vs engraving -- which do you want
ease of changing cutters -- I can see this being an issue within a school environment where every assignment might require a cutter change or perhaps several changes per job.
setup time
required operator skill -- should the kids (at least in year 12) be able to load and cut their own work
I'm sure there are other criteria. Perhaps explore with the Boss the scale of his notional budget and what he sees as the purpose of the machine.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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30th November 2018, 11:18 AM #21SENIOR MEMBER
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Recommend you consider Axiom Precision being sold by Carabatec.
I have had a good look at these and they are quality for the money.
Proper linear rails, ballscrews, high speed spindle. Solidly built. Running UCCNC control software.
And locally available.
(please don't waste schools money on shark)
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30th November 2018, 07:13 PM #22
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30th November 2018, 07:38 PM #23SENIOR MEMBER
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30th November 2018, 08:00 PM #24GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Greolt,
That one you suggested looks pretty good. I might have to look into that more down the track a little bit. Looking at the videos it seems to take your own router/trimmer?
And I cant see if it has a laser engraver adaptor with it. I would definitely only want the smaller model.
Paul
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1st December 2018, 12:07 PM #25Woodworking mechanic
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There was a discussion a little time ago, on this forum, regarding the Axiom system and whether a trimmer router would be powerful enough for the job. Worth a read.
Importing machine from ChinaLast edited by Lappa; 1st December 2018 at 12:17 PM. Reason: added link
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1st December 2018, 01:56 PM #26SENIOR MEMBER
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Didn't get the chance to talk to the boss. A few more days to look around.
Thanks for pointing that one out. In comparison to the the shark, the Axiom looks a little more substantial. Maybe they've done a better job at making videos and marketing it?
Even though a 1200 x 1200 machine would be a nice compromise in size - we're running into the issue of where to put it. There are a few options but all involve taking away space from other areas. The one area that would be least intrusive is near our welding bay and not as close to our timber machine room and benches as I'd like.
The size of the Axiom would be a winner for this reason.
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1st December 2018, 01:59 PM #27GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Lappa
Thanks for that link. The decision gets more confusing all the time. Need to ponder much more.
Paul
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1st December 2018, 07:33 PM #29SENIOR MEMBER
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