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  1. #16
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    Default Let's stick to the facts

    Hi everybody,

    I would just like to thanks the people who have left us good reviews for the saw.

    I would just like to clear up some misconceptions from the post before mine.

    1. We never called the saw a dud. You can check that at the start of the thread. We simply upgraded our saw as every brand does. That is not an admission of a bad product it's simply updating them. If brands never updated we would all still be using Stone Age tools.

    2. The customers saw was never replaced under warranty because it was never faulty. The problem was in our quality control not the product. The saw was simply sent out without the accuracy being checked. A problem that was dealt with immediately we now spend 10 to 15 minted on each saw making sure they are accurate.

    3. I would also like to mention to you that nearly every other brand on the market are not dead accurate straight out of the box. Any experienced wood worker can tell you that. So all you do is spend 20 min actually cutting wood and adjusting the fence. To make it perfect. This is because before they leave the factory we are not aloud to cut things otherwise we would be selling second hand tools.

    So to the very upset customer I think you need to calm down a little and stick to the facts. I don't believe personal vendettas and exagerations belong on a reputable forum. Not only does it hurt the forum and its readers it does a massive amount of damage to the brand you are bagging. There is nothing wrong with leaving a bad review as long as it is true and fair.

    You say we don't stand by our product but you have no idea what you are talking about. You can ask any other Swarts customer that has had a problem and they will assure you that is not the case.

    I urge all people reading this review to not let 1 person change your mind and to seek out other reviews. You are also always welcome to just call me for a chat if you have any concerns. My personal mobile number is 0423313798 please feel free to call me day or night even on the weekends.

    Sincerely
    Samuel Jones
    General Manager
    Swarts Tools

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    Not having had anything to do with the product, I like the idea of being able to set the depth of cut, making it a Radial Arm Saw of sorts.
    Sam, is it possible to mount dado blades on the saw, say a max of 19 mm, so that trenching can be done in one hit, rather than multiple cuts? Just thinking of the neighbours, regarding noise! Just to make a good sounding product, even better.
    Kryn

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    Default Dado Blades on Saw

    Hi Kryn,

    Thanks for your question.

    Yes with the depth stop it certainly makes trenching alot easier.

    No im sorry but you can only use a single blade on the saw. Main reason being it that the blade is housed in a guard, if you put a Dado stack on it it would hit the guard.

    As far as I know the are no mitre saw on the market that can use Dado sets.

    It is a really cool idea though.

    Please let me know if you have any other question. You can also email me directly at admin@swartstools.com

    Sincerely
    Samuel Jones
    General Manager
    Swarts Tools

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    Thanks Sam. How much work would it be to put a larger guard on it, as you would then have a very unique piece of machinery. I always look at machinery and try to work out how to make more functional/ diverse. Just my sick mind.
    Kryn

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    Hi Kryne,

    Yes it would be a very unique saw.

    Unfotunetly the dies to change large aluminium parts like the guard cost in the tens of thousands. Generally when changing these things to you find is affects other parts of the saw and it opens up whole new problems. Its a great idea though. Im sure who ever has the funds to design it would probably make alot of money.

    Its really great to think outside the box though.

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    Anyone offer a review vs its Ozito SCMS-1812 or 909 305db or Triton XT305SCMS(which looks remarkably like the Ozito) counterparts?

    Both on the cheaper side of mitre saws for sure, however the next step us around the $800-$1000. If one was comparing these lower end type of units would one come out any better than the other.
    For example are spare parts available for the Swarts?

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    Default Full range of spare parts

    Quote Originally Posted by xgrain View Post
    Anyone offer a review vs its Ozito SCMS-1812 or 909 305db or Triton XT305SCMS(which looks remarkably like the Ozito) counterparts?

    Both on the cheaper side of mitre saws for sure, however the next step us around the $800-$1000. If one was comparing these lower end type of units would one come out any better than the other.
    For example are spare parts available for the Swarts?
    Hi xgrain,

    Thank you for your interest in our saw. Yes we keep a full range of spare parts in stock in our Sydney warehouse. We also have a 7 year parts guarantee in which if we for some reason discontinue a line we will stock the parts for a minimum of 7 years after or we will refund your original purchase as we know there is nothing worse that buying a new tool then finding out a couple of years later you cant get parts for it. In saying that though we wont be discontinuing this saw any time soon as its a great seller.

    As for the review I will leave that up to other forum members to give you but I can assure you through high quality manufacturing, Australian quality control and personal customer service our saw far surpasses the Ozito.

    Please let me know if you have any other questions.

    Sincerely
    Samuel Jones
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    I have looked at this aw closely over the last 2 years at the eood shows. I have not used them but am very familiar with scms's as it is a daily use for me onsite. My current one is a Dewalt 12" and an 18v makita for smaller jobs or no power.

    If my dewalt were to pack it in I would strongly consider the current model. This saw is not recommended for trade use but from what i see it looked good. Sorry to hear about the issues the OP had with his saw.

    Dave TTC
    Turning Wood Into Art

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    thx guys I appreciate the comments.

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    Hi Sam. I'm considering buying a SW1045. How much clearance is there under the saw? I'd like to cut half way through a 175mm round pine log. Do you think it will fit under the saw?

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    Going off my dewalt I know sometimes i slide the saw forward (towards me) and out a larger piece in behind the blade. Then pull the triger and ease back into the wood. Not sure the largest i have done.

    On an old Hitachi i removed the height lock and it would go up 90 but i know Sam would never recommend or endorse that. I think Sam may still be overseas and just got engaged so not sure how soon he may see this and reply.

    Dave TTC
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    Thanks Dave, I think I'll go ahead and get one.

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    Based upon user reviews and Samuel's comments regarding extended availability (7 years) of spare parts for discontinued models, I placed my order for an SW1045. The following morning, I was offered the associated stand for less than the advertised price. As I have a CMS station, I had no need to take up the offer. Okay, it was an effort to generate more business, but which vendor doesn't wish that? Plus, the reduced price was a nice touch!
    Why does OP believe he was sold a dud? Is not almost every machine subject to development and refinement; e.g. Toyota Camry, iPhones (now iPhone6 - SIX). Simply because an updated model is better engineered or more refined than the original does not indicate the original was a dud. However, OP is entitled to his opinion.
    My son-in-law, a cabinet-maker, will check my saw's setup. After a few days bulk cutting for picture frames and small projects (pen & business card holders, desk clock frames, etc), I hope to give the thumbs-up to this unit - stay tuned!

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    Will you use a sacrificial fence for the small stuff?

    Let us know how you go. I'm keen to see the current model as Sam was talking about some further changes last I saw him.


    Dave

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    That's my intention Dave so hopefully the fitted fence can be removed. If not, my son-in-law will have a workable solution.

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