Thread: Advice on refinishing a genuine Californian Redwood outdoor table?

Hi Savvas,

my first comment is that the table is most likely to be western red cedar rather than Californian redwood, which was mostly cut out by the 1920s. Still a great outdoor timber, but not quite the same.

For outdoor use its difficult to beat the marine oil finishes like Deks Olje, because they both last well and can be simply overcoated with the same product as they age. No need to strip like the polyurethane finishes when they deteriorate. Perhaps a light sand if you wait too long but usually not even that. Buy it at boat chandlers.

Good luck with it,

David

Originally Posted by Xanthorrhoeas

my first comment is that the table is most likely to be western red cedar rather than Californian redwood, which was mostly cut out by the 1920s. Still a great outdoor timber, but not quite the same.

For outdoor use its difficult to beat the marine oil finishes like Deks Olje, because they both last well and can be simply overcoated with the same product as they age.

Thanks for the reply David. Yes - I initially thought WRCedar but she remonstrated rather strongly with me and pointed to a little brass plaque underneath announcing 'Genuine Californian Redwood'! Perhaps just some clever marketing, messing with the truth! I've never had the courage to pursue the discussion further...!

I remember Deks Olje - my Uncle in Sydney used to paint the entire WRCedar side of his 2-story house with it - after he'd done the interior of his boat. I liked the way it almost retained a bit of shine without going dull. I'll investigate further - thanks for the reminder!

Sam

Apologies David - I also intended to ask if Deks Olje is a 'catalysing' finish - does it harden over time? I understand that unlike PU finishes (which essentially remain 'liquid' and just develop a skin) a catalysing finish will harden, giving it wear resistance. At least this is what I recall reading somewhere... My brother - who is an excellent bush-carpenter (built his wooden kitchen, cupboards, doors, pergola, deck and lots of house fittings) swears by Tung Oil. Possibly because it's an excuse to visit Carbatec which he can spend hours looking at 'stuff'. Any experience with or knowledge of this product?
thanks, Sam.

Probably some finish formulated for wooden boats. Sikkens Cetol is popular with the bigger more expensive ($50,000,000) log homes.
Personally, I don't like Cetol for the UV screen gives a strong orange cast to wood. Maybe over redwood it won't be quite so noticeable.

Originally Posted by Robson Valley

Probably some finish formulated for wooden boats. Sikkens Cetol is popular with the bigger more expensive ($50,000,000) log homes.
Personally, I don't like Cetol for the UV screen gives a strong orange cast to wood. Maybe over redwood it won't be quite so noticeable.

Thanks Robson. I've found some further discussion on-line and it seems that Deks Olje is generally preferred over the Sikkins - in marine applications anyway. I've also found some good discussion of Tung oil - it sounds like a good finish but not as long wearing as the DO - so I reckon Deks is what I'll end up using.

Thanks all for the advice!

Sam.

Hi Sam,
DO does harden over time, but doesn’t need sanding when it’s time to recoat with the #1 oil. That time depends on exposure. I have external cedar doors and gates that get the western sun. They should be recoated every nine to 12 months. Where they face south they don’t get any direct sun and the finish lasts at least 5 years. I have some I haven’t touched for 11 years, for them the natural darkening of the timber from uv is the only issue.
David

Originally Posted by Xanthorrhoeas

Hi Sam,
DO does harden over time, but doesn’t need sanding when it’s time to recoat with the #1 oil.
David

Thanks. Yesterday I went out looking for Deks Olje - I managed to buy a small can of both #1 and #2, the #2 being it seems the last left in Adelaide due to disrupted supplies. I'm looking forward to the results. Thanks for everyone's advice - it's been v/useful! Sam.