Thread: 2/3 scale Indian Straight Four.

Well I've just about finished the oil gauge, just messing around on the computer doing the face.
It should be finished soon.
But in the meantime I got my hands on some really nice second-hand pipe.
It's 21.5mm just right for the frame.
So now I can start cutting and laying out parts to build it.
I found this picture it's about as good as gets to build the frame from.

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So I'll start cutting tomorrow.
I'm really looking forward to this part of the build.
It's were it starts going from being a model of an engine to a motorcycle.

Cheers.

We eagerly await the results

Hi Trevor,
tried to post these by PM and failed... So here are the promised piccies:

The ad shows what I've replicated (not quite completed - painting and motor to go).
The other photos show the aluminium lump I started with, after turning end round, the flanges and ribs turned and the centre bored, he whole thing complete and spoked into the rim.
That photo also shows that I turned up a steel brake "drum" (ring) and shrunk it into the hub bore....
Drilling the spoke holes was done on my rotary table.
The last photo shows my hub next to a full size one.
Good luck with your wheels!

Hi Trevor

I have only just stumbled across this thread, which as an former Indian owner and rider myself in the '70s (several, including a '42 741 Scout and a '46 1200cc Chief with sidecar) is of great interest to me. First of all let me say I am in complete awe of you have produced so far. If I had not seen the postings so far I would have sworn the engine was the real thing, just incredible.
From the photo shown in post #123 it looks like it is a '31 or '32 Four you are building, is this the model? The reason I am asking is that the only thing I have left from my Indian days is an original Indian Face horn, as shown attached, which I believe was produced in the 'Wigwam' from around '32 to around '40. FWIW, I intend to make a carved copy of this one day, possibly from some celery top pine I have in the shed.
Indian horn.jpg
If it is of any interest to you, I would be happy to send photographs and detailed dimensions to you for your reference, just let me know.
I'll be looking forward to seeing the build progress!!
Peter

Hey Jo that hub is one sweet piece of machining.
It makes me wish my work was more along the lines of Model Engineering.
As it is I'll have to come up with something that looks the part.
But thanks for the pictures just looking at them has given me a couple of ideas.

It was great meeting you the other weekend.
I'm really looking forward to hearing more about that project of yours at some point.
To say it's interesting would be an understatement.

Trevor.

Thanks Peter I'm glad you like the build so far.
31-32 is about what I'm after in the way of the overall look for the bike.
You may be able to help with a question for me.
The earlier 29-30's with the under bar gas tank.
Do you know if they were one piece or half tanks?
I haven't found a picture so far that shows me that detail.

With the horn I'd be more than happy to get any information about it that you might like to pass on.
Some pictures, and measurements would all be really appreciated.

Thanks again for your interest in the bike.

Trevor.

Hi Trevor, Google the following YouTube video: 1929 Indian 101 Scout Tank Fix Timelapse and you will see they were one piece tanks (i do not agree that the repair method shown is the right way to go about this!!!).
I will take some photos and take measurements over the weekend and PM these to you.
Peter


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Thanks Peter the tank info is a great help!
I'm looking forward to the details about the horn as well.

Cheers.

Apart from starting on the frame for the bike.
I've been finishing up on the oil gauge.
I needed a face for it so I made one up one the computer.

The way I do it is pretty old school, when I'm sure somewhere
out there is an app called Gauge Faces are Us.Com.
But this is my low tech way.

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Because I can't rotate the numbers on angles, I just put it together
as a straight layout on my paint programme.
Then print it out and cut the numbers from the bottom of the page,
and glue them in place on the face at the right angle.

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Then run a black pen around the edge of the pieces I've glued on,
to get rid of the white line from were I've cut it.

From there I just scan it back in to the computer, and reduce it's size
until it fit's the gauge I've made.
Like I say pretty low tech, but the end result can look the part.

Cheers.

if it gets the job done .....

And in my usebox ... had you looked, there is arange of that transparent MDF as discussed earlier. Available in various guages and sizes.

You know - you are really going to have to come back and have a scratch around. (This is just a feable excuse to try and get you to back for another visit, but, it just may work).


Dave the turning cowboy

turning wood into art

Hey Cowboy the first chance I get for a couple of days off.
I'll be heading your way mate, I need to have a good like around the useful box!
And that's my excuse for catching up.

Any way we need a face to face on that little side project we're cooking!

Cheers mate.

I got the face for the oil gauge reduced to fit.
It's a very low tech method by works really well.

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The lighter gives a good scale as to how much I've reduced the original.
The bracket and base of the gauge are on the left.
All I need to do now is make a needle, and cut up some of that clear MDF (Perspex).
And of cause find some really small brass screws!

Trevor.

Trevor, whenever I read one of your updates, the pics leave me shaking my head in awe.
Like everything else, the oil gauge looks fantastic.

I use Paint for my designs too. It's much better than most people think. I prefer it's 'raster' graphics over the 'vector' style graphics software for this sort of thing.
As you mentioned, the downside is the inability to rotate images in small increments, but it looks like you have that one beaten, by cutting out and manually rotating. (One day I might actually pay money for better raster software that allows rotation.)

Looking forward to the next installment of magic.

Originally Posted by Hermit

I use Paint for my designs too. It's much better than most people think

I have two computer's, the one I'm using right now is a laptop it's great for all the every day things!
And then there's my real one, the heavy weight super computer that I rely on all of the time.
I use it for all the layouts of the graphics I need, like the Indian painted on the engine stand and the oil gauge face.
And the name of this computing giant is WINDOWS 3.1.

Sometimes I think it's a shame that people are so quick to discard things and move on to the next.
Before they find out what they can really achieve with what they've got.

Windows 8 I can't even find the paint programme on it, but straightaway it wont's to tell me the current temperature in down town Tokyo!
I just hope my old computer never packets it in, I'd be quite lost without it!

Trevor.