Thread: Monmouthshire Waggon
3rd May 2018, 04:37 AM #1
I know I said I would not start the waggon build until I had completed the wheels. but between things I decided to start today by sitting here and writing a list of material that I need to prepare by cutting and thicknessing.
So this is going to be going on at the same time as the wheels which I will keep as a separate post. So when it comes to the wheels in this one it will be a case of just putting them on complete.
I certainly have learnt a bit from this like the names of various parts of the waggon. I will need to order some brass for the metal work but that is a little ahead of this stage.
Not sure how long this will take as there are other things to make as well. So bear with me or should that be bare, don't you just love the english language
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3rd May 2018, 10:18 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Good on you Derek.
Looking forward to the build.
I think researching the history of what you are building is almost as good as the building - almost
3rd May 2018, 07:01 PM #3
You got my attention Derek.
4th May 2018, 03:40 AM #4
Well I did get out into the shed today but I doubt I will get any more done on anything now until at least Tuesday as there will be no shed time until then.
Anyway todaysprogress does not seem to be much. As I stated in the first post I made a list of parts and there sizes this helps in the cutting out I think I have everything cut out except for the floor boards of the waggon
I started with a lump of English Oak and spent the day cutting slices off of it between trips to the surface planer to give a flat reference face to run along the fence.
Roughly sawn to thickness
Once that was done and a rough marking with tape with the thickness it needs to be I then pushed this lot through the thicknesser so I now have a pile of wood for the wheels and all the framework for the wagon. From now on it will be mainly hand tools which I quite enjoy and I will get the chance to play with my new Japanese saws.
All the wood so far
I reaplied some tape to the ends which makes it easy to find the correct thickness as I go also any left over will be stored in a draw for future projects.
So from here onwards I will be flitting back and forth from this thread and the wheel making one
12th May 2018, 04:22 AM #5
In the morning I enjoy watching a couple of programs on the TV so I took the opportunity to sit and make some templates whilst watching these.
When I did get out to the shed I transferred these to the prepared wood and mark out for various components,
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I proceeded to rough cut these out and also cut some of the square pieces. I nearly have a kit of parts still plenty of sanding to bring some of these to the correct shape before marking them again to cut chamfers to the edges as well as drill holes.
If that is not enough some parts need to have mortice and tenons cut into them, remember that some pieces are only 5/16" thick.
Note that I have labeled different components so as not to confuse me later in the build
16th May 2018, 11:25 AM #6
Does not look like much has been done but have spent a couple of days sanding all the parts that I had cut to shape as well as sand shape to other parts. Photo 1 is from the last post and photo 2 is now they have been sanded to the correct size this took many trips from plans to sander testing before sanding again but worth it as they all now sit directly over there respective plans outlines.
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The following photo's are the parts devidedup to make various components and frames of the waggon.
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17th May 2018, 07:26 PM #7
Looking like you’re making good progress Derek.
ps tried to email you but bounced
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18th May 2018, 04:09 AM #9
Been busy today first on the list was set up a dust extractor for the bandsaw which arrived first thing this morning.
Then it was time for more work on the waggon followed by digging three rows in the veg patch, just can't do more than that.
Anyway back to the waggon all I seemed to do was drill some holes in one of the bed cross members as well as cut 4 through mortices. Most of the time was working out the best way to cut these, I went for a 1/16" drill bit held in the chuck of the drill press with only 1/2" sticking out.
I drilled the holes first then small rows of drill holes for the mortices as you would for a full sized ones with a bit of care and keep operating the handle on the drill press I was able to get a mortice with round ends and as they did square ones when the waggon was built I used a needle file to square the ends.
I still have a load more to do on the waggon, the plans suggest that if you do not want to go to all of that trouble just glue the pieces butt joint fashion but where is the fun in that.
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18th May 2018, 09:59 AM #10GOLD MEMBER
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Top job on the mortices Derek. Fiddly work.
The attention to detail will make this a fine piece of your skillful workmanship.
19th May 2018, 05:09 AM #11
Thank you Keith.
Started the day by having another go at digging the veggie patch. Can only do small amounts before having to rest then it was back into the shed.
Cut the tenons on the summers and raves
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and fitted the rear cross piece as well as the front and middle cross pieces. This is the frame for the main carriage.
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20th May 2018, 09:18 AM #12
Started today by cutting the chamfers on the raves.
Then it was onto another sub-assembly which will eventually fit toward the rear of the first frame I made see the last photo of the two assemblies placed in position. This is the rear axle.
Anyway, I needed to cut out the axle and rear bed bolster to take the coupling pole and its braces, once happy with the fit I drilled holes in the coupling braces and through the coupling pole. This is quite time-consuming. Thinking about it I would rather do a full sized one less fiddly.
I still need to make cut outs for the first frame to fit onto this assembly.
This latest assembly has not been glued yet and some of the parts moved when I arranged it for the photo
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21st May 2018, 06:16 AM #13
I finished yesterday with having 4 cut outs to do on the rear bolster, I managed to complete these and stick that in place. as in the first photo
All the parts for the rear axle complete but not stuck in place as I will have to drill a hole in parts when I have completed the front axle assembly
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Started the front axle assembly but on checking found out everything seemed to be equal from both sides so either the original waggon that the measurements were taken from was not perfect which could be the case considering when they were produced or an oversight of the drawer of the plans.
So the question is which do I use the plans or make the measurements equal across the piece in question. It is the bar running up and down on the left
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Well I made them equal and started to drill the bolt holes after which 4 mortices need to be cut, but that is for tomorrow
21st May 2018, 08:58 AM #14
That's some beautiful work you got going on there!!!An Index Of My Model making Blogs on Lumber Jocks.
21st May 2018, 03:21 PM #15GOLD MEMBER
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Derek, an off subject question, we'll sort of. I see that you stick the templates to the wood, what did you stick them with? Spray adhesive, only one side? Thanks.
its coming along great by the way.
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