Thread: My new toy for toy making

Originally Posted by artme

He'd do even better if people like me didn't interrupt his work.

Nah, always pleased to see a fellow forumite. Lovely to see you and Ana today as always..

Munruben

I was looking at this particular sander myself but have held off as H&F say they only stock #80gr sanding sleeves. This seems too coarse as a finish, if that is all that is available. Any comments? Have you tried sourcing finer grit sleeves, say #100, 120gr. Carbatec's sleeves for their bobbin sander don't cover the same range of diameters so that doesn't entirely help me.

Mike_R

Originally Posted by Mike_R

Munruben

I was looking at this particular sander myself but have held off as H&F say they only stock #80gr sanding sleeves. This seems too coarse as a finish, if that is all that is available. Any comments? Have you tried sourcing finer grit sleeves, say #100, 120gr. Carbatec's sleeves for their bobbin sander don't cover the same range of diameters so that doesn't entirely help me.

Mike_R

No Mike, I haven't tried to source any grits yet. Primarily I use the bobbin sander as a shaping tool rather than a finishing sander and the 80 grit suits that purpose. I believe you are right though and H&F show only 80 grit replacement sleeves in their catalogue.
I don't personally see this as a problem. I think it would be easy to adapt something to use a finer grit paper by making up a sleeve of the grit you require or alternatively could even glue a finer grit over the existing sleeve. I used a home made arrangement on my drill press before buying this sander and that consisted of sand paper glued to a dowel and placed in the drill press and I never had any problem with a failure of the paper or glue. Hope this helps. Someone may know where the finer grit sleeves can be found or come up with a better suggestion.

Munruben
Thanks for the input. I have been using drum sanders in the drill press until now. It was the oscillation and the dust collection features which were steering me towards the stand alone machine as an alternative. It was only the limited grit range that was holding me back from purchasing. I am still in the "pondering" stage!

Mike_R

Mine is Triton Brand.(Same machine) By the way,I havent used the finer drums,Never felt the need really.I got it when there was a clearance going on.I also got a set of 100 and 120 sanding drums to suit.Branded Triton.Maybe you could try that place on Epay from Bairnsdale OR
Episode 10 Triton Spindle Sander | General Woodwork | Howcast.com

In USA but 6 off for $10 US http://www.industrialabrasives.com/3...7335-p-50.html

Originally Posted by Mike_R

Carbatec's sleeves for their bobbin sander don't cover the same range of diameters so that doesn't entirely help me.

Mike_R

Carbatec has the full range of diameters for replacement sleeves covering finer grits, although you have to look for sleeves for two different machines. I found that the lengths of the sleeves was too long for mine but they are easily cut to size.


BTW Congrats on a very useful machine, had mine for years.

Peter.

Sturdee

Thanks for the information. That will make my decision a lot easier to arrive at.

Mike_R

Originally Posted by Sturdee

Carbatec has the full range of diameters for replacement sleeves covering finer grits, although you have to look for sleeves for two different machines. I found that the lengths of the sleeves was too long for mine but they are easily cut to size.


BTW Congrats on a very useful machine, had mine for years.

Peter.

Thanks for that Peter, Nice to know they are available if I need the finer grits.

Some of you guys have me thinking.
I have used 80 grit all the time,and never felt the need for finer.The dual action motion seems to leave a very good finish.Sometimes I may give a quick rub with 320 grit sheet,mainly on compound curves.Then I put the finish straight on.I think I get a good finish on my toys etc.
Anyhow ,I am going to try for a price to Australia from the USA mob.At less than $10 down to $5 for the 1/2" ones US for 6 sleeves of one size,and given that the smaller Dia ones fit inside the latger.Freight may not be too bad. I will try for the 120 grit seeing you cant get them here in the length

I have one of these too - picked up during a H&F sale for $176 I think.

Its a lot better than you'd expect for the money

I've picked up replacement sleeves from Carbatec in a variety of grits for most of the bobbins - there may be one or two sizes they don't have, but the majority are available.

I haven't tried them, but The Sandpaperman may have these sleeves as well??

The H&F bobbin sander is great, but I made the mistake of buying the Carbatec disc sander instead of the bright yellow Woodfast one. BIG mistake - its almost impossible to get the table accurately at 90 degrees to the disc, due in part to the cast table being warped from one end to the other. Discovered this too late to return it unfortunately

Are they all as loud as the Triton model that is shown in the Stu's Shed video?

It sounds like it has a universal motor rather than an induction motor which I thought that a sander like that would have.

The quieter the motor, the more patience I am likely to have in getting the sanding done right. For that reason, I like my 12" Carba-Tec fixed disk sander for the jobs that it can do.


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Originally Posted by Mr Brush

I have one of these too - picked up during a H&F sale for $176 I think.

H&F usually have their annual sale circa mid November, I think.

'Tis not so far away in the scheme of things.


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Charleville's comment regarding noise levels raises a point. I am trying to move towards quieter machines where possible. I have the Carbatec 9" disc/6" belt sander and the Woodfast 12" disc sander. Noise output is fairly reasonable.
To those out there who have the H&F Sheppach bobbin sander how would you rate the noise level? Is it up there with a router or thicknesser (screaming) or more with a pedestal drill or disc sander (whispering). Can you compare the noise level with a few other machines and I will get the picture.

I notice the specs on the Scheppach rate it at 2000rpm which does suggest a brushed motor rather than an induction motor. Any comments please.

Mike_R

Originally Posted by Mike_R

Charleville's comment regarding noise levels raises a point. I am trying to move towards quieter machines where possible. I have the Carbatec 9" disc/6" belt sander and the Woodfast 12" disc sander. Noise output is fairly reasonable.
To those out there who have the H&F Sheppach bobbin sander how would you rate the noise level? Is it up there with a router or thicknesser (screaming) or more with a pedestal drill or disc sander (whispering). Can you compare the noise level with a few other machines and I will get the picture.

I notice the specs on the Scheppach rate it at 2000rpm which does suggest a brushed motor rather than an induction motor. Any comments please.

Mike_R

The noise level is a bit above the woodfast 12" sander but not a hell of a lot and mainly noise from the mechanics.The motor is quiter than an electric drill.Possibly because of the large housing of the sander.It just so happens I have the Woodfast 12" right next to my bobbin sander and if I stand in between them I can just hear the woodfast in one ear and the spindle sander a lot louder in the other