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18th September 2012, 08:31 AM #1
Tractor and trailer
This is a WIP that I did for another forum so I hope that if you have seen it before you will bear with me. At about the time I did the first one, for one of my grandsons there was a pro turner somewhere on the web had said that if you start out with firewood then that's what you finish up with! Well, I suppose that it would burn just the same as any other fire wood, but so would a nice piece of Chippendale furniture? Not that I am compairing anything, just that it's only bits of wood after all.
I would like to say thank you to Ab for the identification of it as a Lanz Bulldog, built around the 1950s?
I started with a fair stock of beech fire wood and after a bit of searching found the bits that I thought would do the job.
The only parts that aren't turned are the chassis' for the tractor and trailer. So the base was cut and sanded. The engine block was turned and the sides and base cut on my band saw. The seat is turned and part carefully cut out. Not too deep as to cut onto the seat!
Next, the main wheels. They are turned from a block that I had spindle turned so as to put a dovetail tenon to hold in my chuck. Turn the inside with a small dovetail tenon, drill the hole and then part off. I was making 2 tractors this time so all 4 mains were done. Reverse the wheels in the chuck and turn the outer face. Then using my index wheel on the chuck mark out the 12 holes. The holes are drilled on my drill press with a lip and spur drill to make sure it is accurate. The front wheels are done the same way.
The axels are all turned to size with a very slight waist where the wheels are so that it is an interference fit for everything but the wheels so they turn freely. The axle heads are left rough and turned to shape in a 10 mm pinch chuck that I made using one of the pinch chuck bands from my very old chuck set.
The mudguards are turned as a shallow dish with a hole in the middle and cut to shape on the band saw.
The steering wheel, fly wheel and chimney are turned after being drilled so the hole is in the middle.. Then the shaft on the steering blocks were turned to fit the vertical hole. The head lights and fixing dowels too. By this time there were a lot of bits!
A fun part was after I had turned the pieces for the rear brakes they then had to be cut almost in 1/2. They are about a 1" diameter with the axle hole in them. As I tend to like having 4 fingers on each hand I decided to hold them with crescent pipe grips! No problems. Everything was cobbled together to see how it looked
It all looked good so the rear brake parts were glued onto the chassis and the axle holes drilled.
All of the bits were cellulose sanding sealed and buffed on my new toy (Beall buffing sys)
Now time to put everything together. A great deal of care is needed so as not to glue the wheels, etc. solid to the tractor. Anyway, they all move OK
Next, the trailer. I'd cut the base when I did the tractor. All of the wheels were turned the same way as for the tractor. I have to admit that I used a skew chisel to round off the tyres. It was much easier and quicker. Left a lovely finish that only needed a very light sanding too. Om the original one that I made for me I followed the plan for the tow hitch and made it from bamboo turned to about 3 mm diameter, but I had always thought it too fragile. I didn't like the swivel either. Too complicated. So I sat and had a think (I do sometimes!) and came up with this
I think it's a lot stronger and more pleasing. Once again some very careful gluing was need to put it all together. The original top is the one with the railings and I thought that they were too delicate for boys to have on a toy. After all, that's what it is. So I put 4 corner posts into holes drilled into the corners and carefully glued the planking in. As an afterthought I decided that if I could keep on loosing the tow pin every time I turned a tractor over to do something underneath then a youngster would lose it quick time! So I turned a small pin to go into the chassis, drilled the tow pin and put some fine nylon cord through the 2 and glued the small pin into the chassis!!
Almost all of the turning was done with my Crown miniature turning tools and they were a god-send!
So at the moment I have a farmyard full of tractor/trailers, but by christmas I will be back to one again!
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18th September 2012, 12:05 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Awesome tractors John. Simple yet very functional and detailed. Some very lucky children are going to enjoy & play.
-Scott
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18th September 2012, 02:21 PM #4
G'Day John,
Glad you found your way to the toymaking section of the forum.
As I said in your introduction, you are one very fine toymaker; well done indeed.
Cheers, crowie
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18th September 2012, 07:59 PM #5Skwair2rownd
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What a great collection of tractors!!They are a credit to you!!
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25th September 2012, 03:50 AM #6
Sorry that I haven't replied to this thread before, but I didn't get any email notifications that anyone had replied???
Yep Crowie, I found it OK and thank you for your comments on my web site too. Ta to everyone else that have said such nice things about my 'firewood'
They were done from a plan Digger, but I made several changes to it as I thought it would be better and stronger. For instance the trailer hitch bar is 2 thin shafts, the same as the rails on the first trailer I did. Just small changes, a cracking plan! As for no lathe??? No way mate!!! I'm doing another project at the mo, delayed after an operation on my right wrist that left 4 small bones screwed together with 5 screws and no scaphoid bone to boot. No turning of any kind for 3 months after. Op, late May. So getting back there now
These are they if you are interested Projects about Toys from Woodturning Online
there are some other good plans on that site too!My ambition is to grow old disgracefully. So far my ywife recons that I'm doing quite well! John.
http://johnamandiers.wixsite.com/johns-w-o-w-1
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25th September 2012, 08:15 PM #7
Nice work.
Reality is no background music.
Cheers John
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25th September 2012, 10:45 PM #8Senior Member
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A nother post written and aplied a smilie and the dam computer freezes upa nd have to start agqin whats the point of posting a reply,if you can't add the smillies you can't give the credit to the thread,as deserved,I have asked about the problem but it still freezes my computer ,and I don't have the problem on other forums/
I was comenting on the great work of the tractors and trailers of Jonzjob when I froze up and I nave lost my reply to the thread
Eddie
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26th September 2012, 07:59 AM #9
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1st October 2012, 08:20 AM #10
Beautiful work!.
Simple designs which really do nothing for me but you have managed to really make something of them and take away that blocky ( Firewood look )
Both the Tractor and the trailer have that special look and I, for one, appreciate the " Work in progress " aspect that you have done. The way you have completed this project has opened up some possibilities for me and made me rethink my approach so I can add some addaptions to my next project when things settle down here.
Thanks for the effort and to Crowie for the mentoring of our Toy Forum.
Pete
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1st October 2012, 06:52 PM #11
Thank you Pete. I look forward to seeing your results as well.
If there are any questions about what I did then I will try to answer them. Difficult with just one lasy brain cell, but I'll try?My ambition is to grow old disgracefully. So far my ywife recons that I'm doing quite well! John.
http://johnamandiers.wixsite.com/johns-w-o-w-1
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1st October 2012, 07:14 PM #12
John
My next project will take awhile. It will be a Toys & Joys 1931 Cadillac Roadster but with a difference if I can do it.
I intend to try to make it oversize so I can mount it on rockers for a young baby which then can be lifted off when she is a bit older. I also want to put a steering mechanism in with rubber tyred wheels so it will not mark our wooden floors.
That is why I appreciated your WIP photos and how you got around a few things, I hope to go a bit upmarket with it so it may be kept as an heirloom.
Pete
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1st October 2012, 07:49 PM #13
That will be worth the wait!
Toys & Joys 1931 CADILLAC ROADSTER PLAN & PARTS KITMy ambition is to grow old disgracefully. So far my ywife recons that I'm doing quite well! John.
http://johnamandiers.wixsite.com/johns-w-o-w-1
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1st October 2012, 08:01 PM #14
That's the one.
Here is a photo of a real one that will allow me to do some modifications.
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