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    I have been experimenting -Making wheels-Spoked wheels mainly.
    I have gathered info from many sources,including friends on this WWF.Thanks Guys.
    I have sort of combined many ideas,plus what I have thought of on the way.
    Maybe not the best wheels I have seen.I think I have a long way to go to get to radish's standard Here,but if you don't have a go you will never know.
    Ruddy is another inspiration with his models.Many others have helped me with info.Wheely and Munruben were a great help also.Thanks guys.
    I dont have any trouble making the models,but the wheels were like climbing a mountian to me.I ddidnt have a wood lathe or the knowledge to make wheels.
    I know have a C3 metal lathe.I designed an adapter for it to be able to fit a wood chuck to it (got a machine shop to make it)
    Went to Jim Carrolls and bought a cheap 100mm chuck with several jaw sets for I think it was $215 or around that figure.
    Seems to work fine to me,but I havent used a wood lathe since school.
    Pics show from wood cut for spokes and 6 segment rim in the making upto spokes ready for sanding.
    I am open for good and bad comments.I want to learn.
    Special mention--waynnicko He was the one- His wood motorbikes and their spoked wheels.Very fine wood spokes,I was dreaming about making something like them for months after I visited Wayne. Wayne has magic hands Thanks Wayne
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    These wheels are 6" dia.I tried to make as big as the lathe would let me.I was after the limits of my machinery,and to work out what tooling I need for future wheels.I have been trying smaller setups as well.
    No I am not making a waggon yet.
    I will be making a wood lock shortly.Then a model of my own design to see how I go.Maybe head first into a big smelly heap LOL
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    Hey, great to see you having a go at it, well done.

    Here's a bit more reading for you, make sure you follow all the links, the more you know, then the better you'll be informed, to see if your making any mistakes.

    What are you building, that these wheels are for anyway ?

    regards radish

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    Excellent work Ross. I know you have put in a tremendous effort on this project and it has worked. I hope, we are going to see a lot more of your wheels in the near future. I feel sure you will have some plans and ideas for using spoke wheels and we will all look forward to that. You should be really proud of your achievement. I know I would be. Great effort Ross, congratulations on a job well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radish View Post
    Hey, great to see you having a go at it, well done.

    Here's a bit more reading for you, make sure you follow all the links, the more you know, then the better you'll be informed, to see if your making any mistakes.

    What are you building, that these wheels are for anyway ?

    regards radish
    These wheels were only made to see how to go about making them,with no particular end use in mind.Only make from pine laying around after out house was built,puls a cyprus fence picket I chopped for the spokes.The only decent bit of wood was the jarrah for the hub
    Radish! Where is this extra reading you mentioned?
    I have read your wheel making on the english waggon site.Cant think of its name at the moment,but very good.You are the master of model waggon wheels
    How about you put some picks up for us all to see please
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    Ooops, very sorry about that, try this site, you'll have to do a bit of searching as there's bit's and pieces all over the place, BUT, there are some excellent modellers who post on this site.
    As for me being " You are the master of model waggon wheels ", don't think so, there's lots more better than me, go check out the site and you'll soon find plenty more.

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    Now that lot should keep you tied to the computer for about a week.

    regards radish

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    Nice work Aussie,
    I like the jig you have there for sanding the spokes, very clever

    Hadn't thought of segmenting seperate pieces like that to make the rim, very good.

    How did you cut out the centre?

    Imagine how big a model would be with 6" wheels!!!

    Aren't lathes cool

    cheers, billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Nice work Aussie,
    I like the jig you have there for sanding the spokes, very clever

    Hadn't thought of segmenting seperate pieces like that to make the rim, very good.

    How did you cut out the centre?

    Imagine how big a model would be with 6" wheels!!!

    Aren't lathes cool

    cheers, billy
    Hi Billy
    Segmenting waggon wheels is done in full sized wheels.I think because it keeps the grain long for strength.
    I stick the segmented bit to a 3"dia block,then clamp in chuck as in photos.
    Because lathe is small I had to make an aluminium outrigger type tool holder that enabled me to cut the OD and hold the part off tool to cut the rim off the block.
    A long story,but I have a grook neck and dont want to hold wood tools It jerks my neck around.
    Pic shows cutting the inside out.
    When cut deep enough I go to the back and part it off.
    pics show other sizes and a truck wheel
    Like I said earlier,he 6" wheel was to see how big I could do on my lathe.No good making a model waggon one day,then finding I cant make the wheels or cant make them big enough.Just me I know..A bit like testing the bath water before you hop in.
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    That is bloody great Aussie!!

    Do you think there is a limit to the size of wheel that can be done that way?

    Is it just limited by the lathe size, or are there mechanical considerations in the timber to take into account?

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    Quote Originally Posted by artme View Post
    That is bloody great Aussie!!

    Do you think there is a limit to the size of wheel that can be done that way?
    Yes I would say so.You might wear it if it got too big.
    I have seen a wheel maker in action at Sovereign Hill.The rim segments are cut on a large bandsaw and drilled for the spokes on another machine.Each segment is put on the spokes and np g;ue between segments or spokes and segments
    All held together with the steel tyre and press fitting of spokes into the hub.
    I dont have the right names for the parts,but you get the drift Hey!
    I have included a wheel being sanded to size.
    where as I turned my OD before I started assembly.They sand it to size after wheel is assembled

    Is it just limited by the lathe size, or are there mechanical considerations in the timber to take into account?
    I have included a wheel being sanded to size.I think this one was about 36" from memory



    & another fitting rim segments no glue
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    nice work Aussie,
    hope your neck gets better.
    Ive got some health issues at the moment too, having tests on my heart, given gallons of blood, wearing a monitor.

    Hopefully all will be fixed soon, whatever the prob is.

    I reckon I'll be back to the dozer tomorrow or Friday, having shed withdrawals.

    cheers, billy

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    Thumbs up

    Thanx Aussie.

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    Hi Aussie,

    Looks really good to me.

    Nice looking wheels!


    Regards,

    Chipman

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    Quote Originally Posted by radish View Post
    Ooops, very sorry about that, try this site, you'll have to do a bit of searching as there's bit's and pieces all over the place, BUT, there are some excellent modellers who post on this site.
    As for me being " You are the master of model waggon wheels ", don't think so, there's lots more better than me, go check out the site and you'll soon find plenty more.

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    Now that lot should keep you tied to the computer for about a week.

    regards radish
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    Well, what can I say, -------- OK, it looks like he decided to get his feet wet out in the big wide world, ah well, now he can see how others do it, eh.

    Plenty of people on that forum to give him some good advice now.

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