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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdie View Post
    Barry-White
    1959 well at the end of it I was just a ich in my dads crouch, 1960 just born.
    You know I do not know if you lot will think that I am mad but to think of a load of timber on the back of a truck brings shivers down my spine, your right you will never see that again.
    I keep on thinking that we have seen the best of this world, that is why I love talking the to the older generation because once they are gone so will all the stores, keep them coming.
    Not that I know any thing about pattern making but the not only did they have to make the pattern they had to think of the shrinkages in the material, well so I was told.
    I believe that Swallow would be able to tell us more about.
    Well nice talking to you guys, I love every minute of it.
    Birdie: The Pattern Maker is a craftsman that wears many hats, firstly he is an expert wood worker working in all three dimensions plus upside down and inside out and backwards. He is also something of a metallurgist, a draftsman a machinist and an engineer plus an expert in plaster and plastics. It's not for nothing that the apprenticeship to become a ticketed pattern maker takes seven years.

    It's somewhat laughable to think that there are those that google wikepidia or read some book and then think that they know whereof they speak.

    When the second world war ended there was a large influx of European crafts men that immigrated to Canada. My father hired nine pattern makers who had come from Germany. These men had worked for the Krupp Steel Works during the war. Now you may not know what the Krupp steel works was but suffice it to say that Krupp produced the German War Machine and virtually all machines in it. I have been there and the shear size of the place is simply beyond description.

    I started working in my fathers shop when I was about ten or so cleaning up and painting patterns after school and during summer holidays, when I got older with the tutelage of these men I soon graduated to doing real work.

    You speak of the older generation, well let me tell you, I listened to these men when they would talk about the patterns that they had helped build, like the turrets for the Panzers and Kings Tigers, the great railroad guns and even one had worked on the patterns for the massive deck guns of the Bismark and the Tirpitz . Comparatively everything that we produced paled into
    insignificance.

    These were the true masters of this most exalted craft and I listened to every word and they taught me much.

    The last of these men passed away five years ago at the age of 102 years, I miss them all and their knowledge.

    You are right insofar as the best is all but gone and we have lived in the of all possible times. Sad that it has to end this way, with a whimper and not with a bang.

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    Swallow
    Thank you very, very much for sharing that with us.
    I have raed a book called "The forgotten arts"mostly it is about England but it does show in the book of what people could accomplish.
    Black smiths, Wheel Wrights,Coopering which I love,and so on, if you can get hold of the books as there are two of them, they are very good to look at.
    By the way got a mate to puschase some coppering tools from Scotland, did not get all of them but what I did get sits very well in my collection of old tools.
    But I can tell you if I lived near you we would have some coffee together an lots of interesting conversations.
    Even as a Carpenter when I did my trade I had only learnt a small amont of knowlage but to day they get tought nothing, most of them do not even know how to set out a house for the footings or for a slab.
    Well very nice talking to you again take care.

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