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Thread: Mechanical Calliper Question
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6th October 2011, 10:22 PM #1Senior Member
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Mechanical Calliper Question
I'm building a vehicle that will need to pass ICV rules and it currently has a tailshaft mounted drum handbrake.
In the circumstances of my build I'm not permitted to use a shaft mounted handbrake and must have a handbrake on each rear wheel
I'm using a Nissan Patrol rear axle that doesn't have provision for a handbrake, because it's on the tailshaft.
I'm looking at using trailer mechanical callipers (I'll be retaining the Patrol hydraulic calipers for service brakes) to give me a handbrake on each rear wheel.
The Patrol has 18mm thick ventilated callipers so I need a calliper that can fit them.
I've found callipers that fit 15mm discs but no 18mm (or larger) discs.
Does anyone know of a larger calliper?
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7th October 2011, 01:49 AM #2son of a blacksmith
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7th October 2011, 09:56 AM #3Senior Member
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A search of the DBA catalogue tells me 1991 onward models had 18mm rear discs.
Question is did they use drum a handbrake at the wheel or on the rear of the transmission.
Guess I should look under one and see.
Thanks,
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7th October 2011, 11:40 PM #4Member
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Hi all
some BF ford uites have 16mm vented dis 2mm they get away with it.
Tony
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8th October 2011, 12:13 AM #5Senior Member
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I found some AL-KO trailer callipers that will accomodate an 18mm disc.
My engineer has given them the nod so I'll pick up a set and start fabbing some brackets, cables and a lever to make it all happen.
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8th October 2011, 11:39 AM #6
I'd be interested in seeing these calipers. When I worked for Al-Ko, the mechanical calipers were to suit 1/2" & 5/8" disc rotors. Even their current website has only these options...
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8th October 2011, 10:40 PM #7Senior Member
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The calliper is designed to fit a 15mm disc but if you back off the adjustment far enough it will stretch to 18.69mm.
I have one fitted and it seems to work fine and allows the disc to rotate freely when off.
I'll try and post up a photo of it fitted.
Fitting was easier than expected. Looks like the cable/lever arrangement will be more difficult than fitting the callipers!
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10th October 2011, 07:15 PM #8Senior Member
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Here you go. The re's about 1mm clearance between the operating pad and the calliper body.
The disc is a 305mm Nissan Patrol ventilated rear.
The car that started with 250mm disc front and 250mm drum rear now has 305mm discs each end so it should stop ok.
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19th October 2011, 07:32 PM #9GOLD MEMBER
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What Is ICV rules? Are you building a type of mountain climbing vehicle (Rock hopping)
Kryn
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20th October 2011, 09:03 PM #10Senior Member
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Kryn,
ICV stands for Individually Constructed Vehicle.
This is used fo either a newly constructed vehicle or a vehicle that is so modified from standard that it is deemed to be a new vehicle and hence must pass almost all current Australian Design Rules. Tough to do.
The vehicle is a 1985 Mitsubishi L300 van that has been cut down into a pick-up and has had the rear of the chassis narrowed by 300mm.
The engine and gearbox have been replaced with a 317KW HSV 6.2litre V8 that sits in the rear tray facing aft. The 6 speed auto sits in front of the engine (toward the front of the vehicle) and is connected to a Nissan Patrol transfer case that feeds the drive power to the rear axle (down beside the engine, using the front wheel drive output) which is a modified Patrol item with 350mm cut off one side to put the diff centre on one side of the car.
Every panel has been altered in some way (glad I purchased a MIG) and the only mecahnical parts left from the opriginal vehicle is some of the front suspension.
Even the dash and wiring have been totally replaced.
This has taken about 6 months @ 35hours per week to do. Almost ready to start it up and drive then I need to finish the bodywork and paint it.
Why do I do it? Cause I can.
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I am curious as to why Patrols are still manufactured and sold with a transmission handbrake, yet the authorities will not allow you to use this option on your ICV, (perhaps because the Patrol is a commercial vehicle, although I doubt that the wagons would be classified that way).
For sure you have chosen an excellent axle there, you don't see many blown Patrol diffs.
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21st October 2011, 07:59 PM #12Senior Member
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In all honesty I don't know why they won't accept a Patrol handbrake in anything but a Patrol.
I actually use one in my Range Rover that's fitted with a supercharged Lexus engine and my Engineer (the same one) didn't have a problem, but then Range Rovers came with transbrakes.
Whislt at first it seemed an inconvenience it's actually worked out quite well as I needed to lower the radiator that sat above the trans brake so getting rid of it made room to fit it all together.
I'll try and get a photo or two over the weekend and post it up.
I haven't taken any photos of the build as getting the camera filthy doesn't impress the wife!!!!
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