Thread: Oy Yonnee!!! YONNEEEEEEEE!!!

That axle you've got is to suit a 4' wide chassis trailer, but only with a certain range of wheels. I'll check my books when I get home and let you know what wheels.

Yes, split rims. All the early Landcruisers and Hi-lux's had narrow split rims. The beauty bein' that you can change a tyre on the side of the road with a couple of tools, whereas all the one piece rims require you to break the sealing bead first, and then lever the b'jesus out of it to get it off the rim.

mmm yes the camper is 4ft OVERALL WIDTH from outside wheel arch to outside wheel arch... the width of the subframe Im building is in total from outside longitude to outside longitude 4ft...

BUT!!! When I first cut the metal for this thing Id cut 4 lengths at 800cm thinking to make it fit INSIDE between the two wheel arches so an overall width from longitude to longitude of 820cm (including the width of the longitudes) ...and the beauty is that Ive still got them suckers!! They are the angled cross members in the photos!

So presently I can go either way 4ft wide or 820cm wide... either ither no real difference to me as nothings been welded up yet and Ive now got steel cut to fit either length.

HEY!! I just realized by going narrower the drawbar CAN BE longer!! mmmm good thinkin 99 AND!!! another good thing would be that I can leave the damned leveling legs alone and the light connections and such! May have to add a couple of inches to the legs is about all... Hell that would make the whole damned job SOOOO much simpler

As for having the wheels on the outside... either ither again mate its what I thought of when I started with cutting the metal to fit the 4ft parameters... doesnt bother me particularily if theyre inside or outside the body of the camper main target is to RAISE the damned thing level with the Prado so where I go it goes with me!! As I said if need be I can quite simply and easily cut out a wheel arch of larger sizings and it wont affect the camper much at all just loose a bit of the side bins which are small anyway and I tend to carry most things in the prado anyways so I can get to them quickly...


And mainly so it doesnt scrape the kitchen of the back along the way... but then Im working on plan 1b now with regard that thing... but am more concerned with getting this subframe done then worry about the kitchen side of things.

At 4ft wide it may seem small... but once you open it up WOW!!... you have two double beds either side of the camper proper and four smallish storage bins 2 each side with a small mattress that fits along either side top then a walk way through the middle which is where I am planning on storing the freezer cold chest thing I bought while travelling as it slides in there almost perfectly and being tucked away the ice will keep for god knows how long... and with which with a bit of ply slipped in and another 4ft wide matteress thrown on top could make a third double bed... IMAGINE THE FUN THAT COULD BRING!!!... god I really must do something about my bloody imagination eh? ...it also comes with a WHOPPING GREAT annexe thing that because some past wally put the zips on one side I now have to work out how to get the sodding things back so theres zips on either side... and I havent yet figured out the jigsaw puzzle of the annex poles... damned poms never like things simple and easy the blighters always make it as bloody confusing as possible those fellas

The camper itself goes up simple and easy just needed to fabricate some extra small bits of pole so the midsection could join and stay together easy and simple... so the camper works a treat just have to figure the damned annex out is all... but its usable without it... the things light and easily moved about of the landcruiser and with its own kitchen attached life should be easy as... once we figure this side of things out that is!!

Work? yeah its the pits at the moment... so far each time Ive scored a good job or lined one up or even that someone else has created for me (thanks again Darren) she has done something to stuff it up So Im stuck down here where theres stuff all work pushing shyte uphill trying to get something that the bank will accept!... but Im a pretty positive bloke most of the time and I know things will change sooner or later... hopefully REALLY SOON!!!... and things will turn good again in that area... just have to make it through thats all and thats the biggest issue I have just now

Anyway how we going here? Am I about ready to arc up the mig or WHAT??? oooh right better see if I can find that damned reciept!!!


WHAHOO!!! got it! No wukkers it was sittin nice an safe in the glove box... so if I have to I can go change whatever needs to be changed Were in business!!!

Oh if the prado wheels wont go on no matter what we try then as I think I said awhile back I have a set of Mitsy Sigma wheels with tyres out near the shed... and due to financial restrictions we will go that way... cant afford another set of rims mate unless theyre freebies... just swap the hubs over for siggy ones and whalla!!... later on when things get better I will hunt up some off road tyres to fit the rims and its all good... two spares for the prado and two spares for the trailer easy as!!

mmmm okay better go check the offsets of those tyres too eh? Back in a tick!!... okay back... the siggy tyres offset is 4in!! (now Im not sure here cause Im measuring from the inside of the rim to the outside of the tyre looking down on the rule so give or take 1/4 - 1/2in I guess would be a good rule to go by but no more than 4 1/2in) The tyres on the rims now are 185/75R14s all in good nick and Ive got 5 of the suckers... smaller than the prado but still should be able to lift it high enough so it travels behind a lot more level eh? Damned well way better than the sodding little 10in wheelbarrow tyres now on the thing!!

Just rang the bearing mob I got everything from and they have the hubs and stuff for the siggy wheels (will take a wheel in and check that 3 1/8th measurement against the hub itself before we go much further) and has no probs swapping them over... so should be right if need be

Cheers
Shane

At some point or other I'll get bored shyteless waiting for yon Yonnee to stop friggin around and go out and set the camper up for a bit of a show and tell... maybe even fix the damned annex up... not much of a jigsaw puzzle person though so may have to rope someone else in to do that... but then you will get an idea of the size and whats what with it... probably all sounds a tad small and silly now but its actually quite a handy size and as I said light and simple to move around off the prado even young Josh manhandles the thing without raising a sweat!!

But for now its back to the grind and weve actually got near on perfect weather for this too ahhhh well may as well get it right first time as stuff it up and have to start again eh!

mmmm been thinking... shame that eh?

Anyway you reckon the axle is for a 4ft wide trailer? And the trailer is exactly 4ft wide... the length of the axle is 5ft 5in... so thats what 15in extra? or 1ft 3in extra?... divide that by two and its 7 1/2 inches either side right?... mmm soooo??? do I need to go swap the axle over or the hubs?... hubs would be best to my pockets since Id still have to buy another rim for the prado not expensive just a pain since theres 5 siggy wheels out there screaming for something to do

mmm shoulda got the larger damned axle when I started this eh? duuuhhh

OK... so that the wheels fit outside the 4ft chassis, the axle needs to be longer than 4ft. Hence, the 7-1/2" per side haging out. Different wheels from different cars have different offsets, and this is why all the different legth axles and different measurements required.

Leave the axle... go and swap the hubs for the four stud Sigma's (although they should be cheaper and you should get change... see if they stock VIN plates and see if you can swap the 6 stud hubs for a pair of 4's and a VIN plate).

Leave the chassis at 4ft... the wider the camper, the more stable it is off-road, especially now your raising its centre of gravity. If you left it as narrow as it was, it'll want to tip over alot more easily.

Having 5 wheels ain't so bad either... On short trips, you take one spare, and on longer trips, you can take 2 or 3. And you've still got a couple of back-up spares for the Prado now you're not using them on the camper.


So... I think we're ready to weld away.

p.s.
Trim the corners off those diagonal beams before you weld them on, or they'll fill up with rocks and dirt while you're travelling.

Okay clarity mate clarity... CLARITY!!

Due to the smaller OFFSETS of the siggy wheels we are going with the size of the pictures ala FULL WIDTH of the camper? NOT the slimline size as in from INSIDE the wheel arch to INSIDE the wheel arch?... and just add some over the tyre thingys? god what are those bloody things called????

And you want me to swap the landcruiser hubs for the siggy hubs AND a VIN plate? (If they have them that is)

No worries... Will do ASAP!!... hopefully tomorrow arvo after WORK!! FLAMIN BOBBY FRIGGIN DAZZLER!! got me a damned fine job fits all the needed criteria and its what I enjoy doin... so breathe Shane BREATHE!!!... lets hope its a laster!!

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

Okay clarity mate clarity... CLARITY!!

Due to the smaller OFFSETS of the siggy wheels we are going with the size of the pictures ala FULL WIDTH of the camper? NOT the slimline size as in from INSIDE the wheel arch to INSIDE the wheel arch?... and just add some over the tyre thingys? god what are those bloody things called????

Yes...
and Mudguards...

Originally Posted by Dingo

And you want me to swap the landcruiser hubs for the siggy hubs AND a VIN plate? (If they have them that is)

Again, Yes.

Originally Posted by Dingo

No worries... Will do ASAP!!... hopefully tomorrow arvo after WORK!! FLAMIN BOBBY FRIGGIN DAZZLER!! got me a damned fine job fits all the needed criteria and its what I enjoy doin... so breathe Shane BREATHE!!!... lets hope its a laster!!

BL00DY BEWDY That's great news on the job front! Congrats!!

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

hopefully tomorrow arvo after WORK!! FLAMIN BOBBY FRIGGIN DAZZLER!! got me a damned fine job fits all the needed criteria and its what I enjoy doin... so breathe Shane BREATHE!!!... lets hope its a laster!!

So old cobber, what's the John Dory - what's the job tell all, we've heard all about the problems, give us a happy ending...

Jeremy... mate I had decided to hell with getting my head done in again today and was going to have a day doing the camper for a change of pace... and had just made a cuppa and was making my way out there when the mobile went ballistic in me strides pocket... and since my younger daughter has been using the thing of late she likes to have it on VIBRATE!! and well bein as the thing was in me strides pocket AND vibrating like a demented chook... ahem well lets say I jumped about 9ft straight up grabbed at the thing and yelled into it "WHAT THE FLAMIN HELL DO YER WANT!!" ahem... not a good start you would think eh?... but the bloke on the other end fair phissed himself laughing and spluttered "Shane you want work tomorrow or not? You dont have to of course I just thought well youve been in here every bloody day for the last two weeks that you might just WANT to work? but hey if not well..." "MY FLUCKIN OATH I WANT TO WORK!!! Talk to me!.... ohh who is it? NO! Dont worry bout that tell me where and when and I'll be there"

More laughter then "yeah I thought you might say that mate its Ben from RecruitWest in Bunbury mate Ive got the right job for you start tomorrow 7am driving a water truck pays a bit more than you reckoned you needed for that other thing" "GOOD ONE MATE IM ON MY WAY!" more laughter "yeah okay see you when you get here"

And so with a mad bolt to the Prado arc her up and fair fly into Bunbury a few hours later Im the holder of a spunky new "blue card" at the cost of 100smackers and the owner of a new "RecruitWest Hiviz shirt" which I had to buy for another 40smackers and the owner of a bloody shyte hot right on the money job!!... pays about as good as it gets down here and half what Id get on the mines so just about dead set right to sort the damned paperwork out... 10 hours a day home every night Sundays off
YOU BLOODY LITTLE BEAUTY!

Ben hadnt had a truck driving job for a HR driver come in for near on a month and this was the first and the first person he called was... ME!!... gotta be bloody happy!!

Job goes for as long as I want it and as long as they want me... he reckons in about 4-6 weeks there will be mine work again so if I want he can then line me up for that caper... but mate I tell you if this position turns out the ducks knuts then I'll just stay put and be there for the kids.

Just got to get through the next 2 weeks then a) the pay will be a full week and b) the tax will be in the bank and the bills will be sorted and I can start to move forward on this asset thing and my life... NO BLOODY WORRIES!!

mmm okay I havent even stepped foot on the site yet but by god no matter what Im plantin me foots an stayin put!! Theyre gonna need a case of anfo an some dets to move my butt cheeks from the cab of that truck I can tell you

Of course no doubt a certain person will try certain things to disrupt of cause its demise but NO MATTER what that person may try or do this job is MINE and Im stayin bloody put! That person will just have to get over themselves an sort themselves out so they can do what needs to be done for the kids while Im at work seeing as they dont work... but brother I tell you what Ive done 10 forms of jigs since this arvo when the "Okay everything pans out good hes hired" was given... I think maybe you get the idea IM BLOODY STOKED???

Oh and another good thing?... Yon Yonnee gets a wee break from my incessant yelling screaming banging and demanding his blasted attention!! Now he can get back to a) work and b) finishing Waldos cyclone thing

Cheers!!!
Shane


oooh and another AMAZING thing? I passed the D&A phiss test!!! Surprised the blazes outta me since Id had a... couple?... last night and I thought Id fail the buggar but everything came back negative and all clear!!

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

... Yon Yonnee gets a wee break from my incessant yelling screaming banging and demanding his blasted attention!! Now he can get back to a) work and b) finishing Waldos cyclone thing

Cheers!!!
Shane


oooh and another AMAZING thing? I passed the D&A phiss test!!! Surprised the blazes outta me since Id had a... couple?... last night and I thought Id fail the buggar but everything came back negative and all clear!!

G'day Wild Dingo mate,

He's finished it, I'm picking it up this Saturday.

Great news on the job front mate, great news. (but having to buy the gear to wear is a bit steep)

Really great news, Shane.. I would break open the phiss and sink a few to celebrate for you - but it's only 11 am, so I'll have a cup of tea instead!

yonnee

quick specs on trailer are 6m long plus 1.45m drawbar 2.45 wide ,weight 750kg gvm 3000kg electric brakes plus breakaway,mainly used for transporting cars,sick of normal car trailer length around 4.5m with car overhanging front or back. I do not have a camera and not sure how to post pics.

Dingo
you can always cut axle and weld stub axle onto longer 40 or 45mm square steel, this is what we did to get the height lower. In trailer talk this is a overlay axle.

Great thread. One of the best.

Welcome back Shane

Good work Yonnee

Originally Posted by wonka

Dingo
you can always cut axle and weld stub axle onto longer 40 or 45mm square steel, this is what we did to get the height lower. In trailer talk this is a overlay axle.

oooohhhhhhhh god my sides hurt!! ooooohhhhhhhh jeeeeeeeeez Ive just hit the floor with a heck of a THUD!!!

Im amazed at your sublime confidence in my abilities there Waldo Mind you lets see what yon Yonnie boyoh has to say about that wee suggestion BEFORE I get antsy an start to cutting the AXLE!!!

mmmm better to be safe than sorry methinks... so I'll just swap the hubs over WAY more liable to actually NOT stuff something up that way ...sorry Waldo me ol china Im simply NOT THAT GAME!!!

The new job went well today... not straight truck driving all day which is what the doc reckoned blew my knees out in the first place so a good thing... A bit of time on the truck then over onto the skid steer for a few hours then swung a broom for an hour and then stacked pavers for an hour and then thankfully got the chance to kick back while the other bloke did the same and the day went BEAUTIFULLY!!! same again tomorrow? BLOODY OATH!!

Knees were playin merry havoc when I knocked off but after a hot bath with some epsom salts and the braces on theyre actually not as bad as I thought they would be... soooo maybe I'll get through eh?... fluckit!! even if I have to CRAWL around I WILL get through!!

Cheers!
Shane
Cheers
Shane