Thread: Oy Yonnee!!! YONNEEEEEEEE!!!

Come on!! PULL YER FINGA OUT SONSHINE!!!... strewth this waitins got knobs on it! a fella might just have to take a chance and weld something!!

half an hour already??? good greif Yon Yonnee youngfella!! mmmm this is a worry I can tell yer... methinks me needs an ontap kid to turn into a flamin welder eh?... oh thats right me young nephew IS a welder!! YEAH RIGHT!! get that buggar to drive for an hour on a weekend to give his uncle a hand? NOT BLOODY LIKELY!! friggin young fellas Young buggar just wants to get on the phiss an carry on instead of helpin an old fart out... gawd I even offered a bloody cartoon of booze for the help but nooooo gotta go out an get phissed with his mates doesnt he? bloody yobbo!

sorry not meanin no respeck to you yon Yonnee yer a right good young fella

Just a tad... shall we mutter... mmmm... slow on the uptake??

COME ON!! ITS A TRAILER WELDUP THREAD ME BOYOH!!!


oooh just thought Id add... the diagonals are EXACTLY 92 1/2in each beautiful an everythings perfek... god sometimes I stagger meself with me brilliance!

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

Okay now the weldings done to MY satisfaction... no not bloody brilliant but its all good in my book so as me ol mum would say "leave well enough alone Shane before yer totally STUFF IT!"

Okay pics and questions

1) This bit is for the join of the axle to the spring right? Yep.

2) What is the little arch thing for thats hanging from one of the bolts?
That's the spacer that goes between the spring and the axle. Although the one they've given you is for a round axle. You could either swap it, or cut the legs off and use it flat, or turn it 90* with the legs of the 'U' run along the axle

3 and 4) the little archs for the spring ...hangers...

5) Thats the one the bolt goes through... this is located toward the front of the trailer right? Yep.

6) And the smaller one located at the rear under the leaves right? Yep, BUT...
Turn it over and weld it to the frame so that it's open at the botton. Yes I know the spring will fall out when you turn the trailer over, but you just need to find a bit of flat steel off-cut and weld it to close the gap. This way, as the spring moves along the chassis as it working, it will wear away the hanger. Easier to replace the hanger than to weld in a new piece into the chassis.

AND... when you weld the hangers on, ONLY WELD THEM ALONG THE CHASSIS, NOT ACROSS!!
It makes them easier to replace if you ever need to.

7) So it will look like this right? Yes, if the front is to the left...

8) Or do I flip them so the leaf part is toward the front?
The eye of the spring (where the bolt goes through), faces the front.

9) How far along the leaf does the little arch sit? That gap you've got is perfect, but it's the front that's the critical measurement. Normally I'd tell you to set it up by the standard 1/2" rule, but in this case you already have an existing wheel arch. Just make sure your two hangers are the same distance back from the front cross member.

10) SHE STANDS ON HER HEAD!!!

Another question!! The thing in the first pic... do the bolt sections go OVER the axle? And if so how bloody tight are they meant to be?? These DO NOT FIT over the axle easily... so my thinking is that IF I try to BELT the hell out of them to get them to slip over the square section of the axle the bloody things are going to bend OUTWARD and therefore NOT fit the sodding plate!!... so Im guessing that Im going to HAVE TO go back to the bloody shop again to get a larger set right? Unless Im meant to try to FORCE them on from the hub end? Again this would entail BELTING THE HELL out of the things from the threaded hub end!

Yeah, those U-bolts go over the axle. They shouldn't be a FORCE fit. Looks like another trip back to the shop.

Sooo can you throw up the answers licketty split ol son? Cause Im goin back out there in half an hour to weld them on!!

Cheers!!
Shane

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Cheers Yonnee

So its back to the shop? Buggar ah well... so correct me if Im wrong all I have to replace is the axle thing with the four bolts?... that it?

Okay since you were gone SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LONG I sorta went and did what I said and mmmm welded somefin

1 & 2) Check the centreline!! SPOT ON THE DAMNED MONEY!!! FLAMIN ECK IM BLOODY GOOD!!

3 & 4) The welds are getting damned good too methinks!

5) Waitin on yon Yonnee

6) STILL WAITIN

7) ahhh buggar it! Time for a caffine

So Id taken them to show that Im keen as mustard and waiting... so I comes inside to have a caffine and what happens? Young Yon Yonnee has turned up!!

Oh no...

You didn't...

Oh, you did...

You welded across the drawbar.

OK.

Don't panic...


Nobody panic!!


From the looks of it you've welded it good and proper.

Oh well... nothing you can do about it now. The saving grace is the weight of the camper. It won't be heavy enough to cause you too much drama.


Otherwise, coming along nicely

mmmm... see?? What did I bloody well tell yer eh??? leave me to me own divices an everythin goes to crap

Sooo yer tellin me I didnt do dun good?... buggar eh!

mmmm the drawbar to subframe weldup is what I sorta thought would be the ducks nuts you know? make sure its ONE peice of metal rather than 2 peices joined by two welds its WELDED into one peice of metal... whats wrong with that thought Yonnee? seriously interested... weight on the front down onto the drawbar could cause the drawbar to snap maybe??? geeeeeeeez dont tell me that!!

Actually I was thinkin... mmm not a good thing eh? anyways I was thinkin of getting some steel and making some plates and throw a bolt through from subframe to drawbar... you know just to make good and sure!!

no seriously I checked the drawbar/subframe connection on the old 8x5 do everything loaded to the gills trailer and thats welded on so I sorta figured you know its all good... and there you have it easy as! an now yer sayin I didnt dun good?

Yeah as you say the weights of the camper is gonna be BLOODY light as on this thing but what say you about the bolts thing?... but I was sorta thinkin about something like the ones for the axle/spring connection that sorta thing straight through the 4x2s... whatcha reckon??

mmmm me thinks this could be a sorta long time build this thing

Oh another thought... what yer reckon I should use to bolt the camper to the frame? Presently its got big pop rivets through the thin steel and body... Im thinkin more along the lines of a series of tek screws through that sound okay?... another thinking thought... the base of the camper is ply and Im thinkin I gotta seal that a bit cause sure as god made little green apples Im gonna get the underneath wet as... so got any ideas of sealing that beneath the camper and the joins along the steel?.. mmm problem cant see me turning the camper body upside down to do any sort of seal unless theres something you know about that I dont... mmm yeah yeah no doubt on that one eh!!

Okay thats probably enough to give you food for thought for awhile

Check back shortly just gotta dash out and take the nippers to her place for the week

Cheers
Shane

Gee's Ding you's been a busy fella even learned how to set the camera to shoot your own photo

Yonnee said in another thread think it was when Dazza was building his trailer about not welding the front of the draw bar just the edges reason being cracks the weld.

Where as the other train of thought is if you dont it cracks the other weld from to much flex different trains of thought. Its no panic as long as the edge's are welded also.


Now I didnt read all of Yonnee's replys but I hope you did a diagonal measure to make sure all was square as you went welding etc. This is hard to do on your own but can be done a little clamp will help hold the end of the tape but dont over tighten.

Keep at it Shane its only 1830 / 6.30pm here you got to have at least another 2 hours of daylight left not to mention bright lights if you go into the night

Don't forget work tomorrow

Gidday wheelin me ol son hows tricks? got that V8 hooked up behind the chair yet mate?? if you havnt I may have to come over there and do it for yer chrissy pressy!

As to the other stuff... well I did weld the whole shamozzle sides front back yarda yarda thought I was on the right track but seems as usual I was off tack by a few yards Will spend a few days while at work mulling over the idea of the plate with bolts through... mmm on that track Im thinking maybe doing that when I drop the camper onto it that way I can bolt RIGHT through the camper AND the trailer... hahaha something gives it ALL gives!! may as well make a right cockup as a tiny one eh!!... nah better not say that incase Yon Yonnees reading

Yep diagonals all measure up PERFECKLY!! right on the button... heck not even a centablos snot out!!

Nope lights gone in the shed so its over for today (and Ive blown 3 spotlights out there as it is so aint getting anymore! tell yer what the sooner this place is sorted and I sell the damned thing the better!! No power in the shed is drivin me insane! )... bout the only thing I will do for now is cut the plate for the tow hitch cause I can do that outside where theres still some light

Anyway seems Yonnees gone to the sack and is snoring again

Cheers
Shane

And see what happens, that shot with your mug in that first group has the most views. Progress is looking beaut. See, put that face and the Dingo get-the-job-done attitude and you're welding up a trailer.

Way way more than your's truly could achieve - I had to rope young Yonnee (after he offered ) to do the most basic thing for me seeing as I don't have the know hows to do, got the gear, but not the stuff in the head.

Not quite in bed yet Ding, just lookin' after a sick young'un.

Anyway... the drawbar will be OK. As I said before, the weight of the camper, and the size of the material you've used, won't effect the join. Don't worry about the bolts through the draw bar. You'll weaken it by drilling a hole through it.

The thing with your 8x5 and the way it's welded... the angle iron cross rail gives it some flex, that's why it hasn't cracked the weld.

As for attaching the camper to the chassis, Without seeing the underside of the camper, it's hard for me to advise. Are you going to remove the old chassis? Does it have a chassis? If so, how is it attached to that?
Normally, Caravans are a flat timber floor, glued and screwed to the chassis, then a wall and roof frame is built and then clad inside and out. And then they're fitted out inside.



Waldo,
Any time mate, great to meet you in person. Shoot us some pics when you've got it up.
And if you ever want a MIG lesson, you know where to call.


Did someone say V8... and a chair...???

Count me in!! I've got a 253 just sittin' around lookin' for a home.

Originally Posted by Yonnee

Waldo,
Any time mate, great to meet you in person. Shoot us some pics when you've got it up.
And if you ever want a MIG lesson, you know where to call.

I'll take you up on that sometime. Some timber racks like we talked about might be place to learn on.

Back to you Dingo. Is it light in WA yet, c'mon 'urry up.

Dingo Gidday wheelin me ol son hows tricks? got that V8 hooked up behind the chair yet mate?? if you havnt I may have to come over there and do it for yer chrissy pressy!

Looking forward to the visit thats if the Pajero and camper can make it


Yonee
Did someone say V8... and a chair...???

Count me in!! I've got a 253 just sittin' around lookin' for a home.

Small block eh Yonee



Now back to trailer Shane hope your going to cap the ends of the tubes no use leaving them open so WA's bull dust fills em up and add's another ton to the tare.


Poor old fella's most likely slept in after his hardest weekends work for months WAKE UP ya's got a payed job to go to