Oy Yonnee!!! YONNEEEEEEEE!!!

**Wild Dingo** · 18th August 2008, 09:16 PM

Bin to work all day... bottler of a day too!!

Soooo anyways where were we? Oh the V8 in the wheelchair for young wheelin up there... yeah twas a thought of mine a fair few months back to stick one on the back so he could get around a tad quicker

Just tryin to help a mate out is all

As to capping the ends... yeah had been giving it some thought today while driving up and down on the vib roller joggles the brain packet that does

and will be doing so sometime down the track still gotta build the thing first!! was thinking of drilling some drainage holes but seeing as yon young Yonnee objektifies to me drillin still

I guess thats out

On to the present setup... its got three longitude C chanels for a subframe other than that they are connected as far as I can see by bloody great pop rivets through the ply floor into the C channels... thats it as far as I know or can see maybe its glued cant see any glue lines or excess anywhere so wont really know till I drill the pop rivets out and... I RIP IT OFF!!

which is why I was asking you know to be prepared for when its ready to be bolted screwed or whatever down to the new subframe??

The only sign of a chassis IS the C channel and the ply flooring.

Anyway I got home bolted out to the shed and with major trepidation opened it up... I was kinda worried that Id only dreamt that Id done did it!!!... But no there she was sitting ooooh so purty and waitin for the next stage of operations

Ive got the axle and the plate with D bolts in the car waiting for an early knock off sometime this week and I'll zap into Bunbury Bearings and change the damned bolts over so they friggin fit without having to BELT the hell out of them to get them over the axle... shouldnt be a problem guys very helpful now he KNOWS Im actually havin a whirl at making it

Will ask about the vin plate while Im there during the week

Cheers!
Shane

**Wild Dingo** · 24th August 2008, 12:59 AM

Well finally a bit of progress on the trailer front was made today!!

Zipped into Bunbury Bearings this morning and changed over the brackets for ones that fit

and soooo after watching young Joshys game of soccer I headed for the shed... quick turn over of the subframe and into it!!!

Pics as it stands NOW...

1) Little doohickeys locked in place and ready to weld
2) Welded little doohickey
3) Trial fit before welding on the small plate on back doohickey
4) Clamp fit onto spring and axle
5) It FITS!!!

6) The fitup on the other side
7) Plate cut and welded to drawbars for tow hitch
8) Lookin like a trailer sub frame eh?

9) Tyre on bucket support for axle while I finish of the towhitch area and weld plates over the ends of the longitudals

Sooo where to from here eh? WELL!!!... next I will cut and fit some plates on the ends of the longitudals then I will drill and fit the tow hitch to the plate and the draw bar... THEN I will fit the hubs and wheels

The diagonals are perfect... the distance from end to small doohickeys are prefect the distance from front to doohickey with the bolt for the spring is perfect... so I cant for the life of me see how this would possibly go wrong from here

Yonnee can you see any issues not addressed? OH!! With the small doohickeys do you weld them across the bar or just along the sides as I have done? in other words should I weld across the bar? cause I coped a wholloping the other days for welding across the bar with the drawbar I sorta figured mmmm better just do the sides this time

1 QUESTION REMAINS!!!... with the hubs... when I fit the bearings into the hubs theres a wee cap that goes on the ends... so do I a) slather EVERYTHING that goes in there with grease INCLUDING filling the cap or b) Just fill the cap with grease?

Otherwise one thing more left to say

THANK YOU!!! All of you for giving me the confidence to actually have a whirl at this... been bloody fantastic really as Ive spent more time in the shed with this than Ive been able to spend in there since Jo left... so the thanks are sincere!

Cheers
Shane

**Waldo** · 24th August 2008, 01:06 AM

the doohickey is actually a whatyercallit.

That camper'll be up on thr trailer and you'll soon be doin' a Leyland Bros.

**wheelinround** · 24th August 2008, 09:53 AM

Shane tell me photo 9 last photo is an optical illusion and they are not bowed in opposite directions

Other wise great stuff coat a paint and Sunday afternoon attachment of the body

**Wild Dingo** · 24th August 2008, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by wheelinround

Shane tell me photo 9 last photo is an optical illusion and they are not bowed in opposite directions

Other wise great stuff coat a paint and Sunday afternoon attachment of the body

Too right mate! It IS an optical illusion interesting eh? hadnt noticed that till you pointed it out... had to dash out to the shed to check!! no wukkers straight as a dart in a pub on hookers night!

so shes all ready for the final fitting of the tow hitch and hubs... ala the need to know about the grease issue

Good one Jatt!

One thing mate? Would you mind creating a show and tell on both those trailer builds? Thing is Im starting to THINK again

which generally means Im gonna do something totally stupid like rebuild the WHOLE camper... which really I dont wanna do... kinda... but its tickling my mind at present

cause I reckon I could do MUCH bedderah than this wee pommy jobbie that Ive been planning on putting on the new subframe

Well... I mean... you know... new HEAVY DUTY OFF ROAD subframe kinda needs a new heavy duty off road camper eh?

Way I see it at present is that since this part was so damned easy I near passed out at the simplicity Im sorta starting to think making the rest is gonna be just as easy a walk in the park... a bit of a box like affair you know pop top affair incorporate the kitchen INSIDE the camper a new top and annexe... see!!! SEE WHAT BLOODY HAPPENS when Im left to my own devices????

SOMEONE STOP ME!!!

nah I might be a tad insane and not quite logical at times a bit of a dreamer as they say but Im NOT totally troppo!

Hey Waldo? Can you lob a few bricks at yon Yonnees place please? Bloody young fellas still snoring

How did the cyclone thing get one? All done and workin a treat?

Cheers
Shane

**wheelinround** · 24th August 2008, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

The diagonals are perfect... the distance from end to small doohickeys are prefect the distance from front to doohickey with the bolt for the spring is perfect... so I cant for the life of me see how this would possibly go wrong from here Shane still do a Diagonal check to them just to be on the safe side

Yonnee can you see any issues not addressed? OH!! With the small doohickeys do you weld them across the bar or just along the sides as I have done? in other words should I weld across the bar? cause I coped a wholloping the other days for welding across the bar with the drawbar I sorta figured mmmm better just do the sides this time As you have already done Shane Yonee may have other ideas tho

1 QUESTION REMAINS!!!... with the hubs... when I fit the bearings into the hubs theres a wee cap that goes on the ends... so do I a) slather EVERYTHING that goes in there with grease INCLUDING filling the cap or b) Just fill the cap with grease? Pack the bearings Shane very well and top the cup/cap also thats a dooer for sure
No grease under the inner bearing cone/cup prior putting it in

Otherwise one thing more left to say

THANK YOU!!! All of you for giving me the confidence to actually have a whirl at this... been bloody fantastic really as Ive spent more time in the shed with this than Ive been able to spend in there since Jo left... so the thanks are sincere!

Cheers
Shane

So off you go out and photo's this arvo

**wheelinround** · 24th August 2008, 11:56 AM

Shane just re looked at photo two the hanger weld looks a bit dodgy do a bit more bring around onto the flat just to be sure.

Stresses will be tending to tear at the weld

After all you are going to take it off road

**Wild Dingo** · 24th August 2008, 12:00 PM

Pack the bearings Shane very well and top the cup/cap also thats a dooer for sure
No grease under the inner bearing cone/cup prior putting it in

mmmm... why is it that even the simplest things you say confuse the hell out of me wheelin??

So the "inner bearing cone cup" is the one that goes on the inside of the hub? the one closest to the axle right? so no grease under that one? Why? I mean I would have thought that being the one closest to the axle would mean it would get hot and therefore distort or even "burn" easier if it doesnt have greese packed in and around it??? see confusion!!! dagnabitall as our yank mates would say

Okay the diagonals are perfek STILL!!

as are all the other measurements

I spent a wee bit of time late last night checking back through the threads in this section trying to find someone who had commented about the bearings thing and... uhmmm found some comments regarding that cross drawbar welding i did done the other weekend... mmmm now IM WORRIED!!... shyte! so Ive actually weakened the thing? DAMN DAMN DAMN!!

... so best cureall would be to cut the damned thing off and get some more damned 4x2 RHS and make another drawbar and this time DONT weld across the friggin join right?... flamin eck I knew it was all going too good to be bloody true

I really MUST start to READ things BEFORE I start makin stuff eh?

Cheers
Shane

Ps... anyone woken young Yonnee yet?? I can feel the pull and lure of the job calling me!!!

**Wild Dingo** · 24th August 2008, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by wheelinround

Shane just re looked at photo two the hanger weld looks a bit dodgy do a bit more bring around onto the flat just to be sure.

Stresses will be tending to tear at the weld

After all you are going to take it off road

BLOODY HELL MATE!!! Strewth now you WANT me to weld across the friggin thing????

geeeeez a fella cant win

**wheelinround** · 24th August 2008, 12:14 PM

Ok sorry Shane about confusion

This whats known as Cup and Cone bearings the solid piece (no rollers) is the cup when putting that into hub or onto the shaft don't put grease on it prior tapping it in.

The bearings both inner and outer pack with grease and also the end cap which goes on the outside of the axle last the little over thingy

Is that better

**m2c1Iw** · 24th August 2008, 12:16 PM

Ding,
Don't worry yourself about the draw bar it will be fine you've got plenty of strength in that section.

As for grease and bearings the important thing is to seat the cup without damaging the bearing surface and work the grease into rollers .
Grab a lump of grease in one palm and work the end of the rollers section through the grease. Do not over pack the housing as when the hub gets hot grease will go everywhere. If its a marine type cap with a grease nipple thats designed to have grease pumped into the hub to keep the water out and from memory they have a special inner seal anyway make sure you wack a seal on the inner side.

Good luck, it coming along a treat

Mike

**wheelinround** · 24th August 2008, 12:19 PM

**Wild Dingo** · 24th August 2008, 12:24 PM

Whew!

No wukkers... THAT I can do!!

Mike its not the marine one its a straight forward cap... mmm will take some pics and explain it a tad??... seems easy as... oh and theres a seal thing in the bag not sure what thats for but hey its there it WILL go on!!... somewhere?

So I slide that band thing in first DRY and then pack greese around the bearing thing making sure to get some into the bearings themselves... inner AND outer?... then say what half fill the cup? or chockers?

Cheers!

**m2c1Iw** · 24th August 2008, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

So I slide that band thing in first DRY and then pack greese around the bearing thing making sure to get some into the bearings themselves... inner AND outer?... then say what half fill the cup? or chockers?

Cheers!

The cups (band things) need to be tapped home into the housing dry. Word of causion do not use a steel drift something soft so as not to mark the bearing surface then put the greased inner bearing into cup fit the inner seal. Then slide onto axle followed by outer cone (bearing) put yer washer and castelated nut on tight her up till firm spin the hub a few times just nip the nut then back off about a tad so not over tightened. Put yus split pin in knock the dust cap on jobs done time for morning tea

BTW nup you don't need to fill the hub full of grease it will only spray out when hot the important area is the rollers themselves so make sure you get plenty in around the rollers all the way in behind the face you can see.

**DJ’s Timber** · 24th August 2008, 12:31 PM

The seal goes on the back of the hub after you have put the packed bearing in prior to fitting it to the axle. Then slide the hub onto the axle and fit the smaller bearing to the outer side of the hub, place retaining washer if there is one and then nut, tension nut up but do not overtighten it, only needs to be tensioned up to hold the hub so that it isn't sloppy, if you over tighten it, the bearings will run too hot and could cause them to seize,

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