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3rd November 2010, 10:03 PM #1Member
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Repairing a rusted out section on Hartley tilt trailer
I have a little rust problem with my (probably) original ~1970 Hartley tilt trailer, which I need some help with.
Whilst I had hoped to provide some piccies, I've misplaced my camera, and will have to rely on good English useage to describe it.
The trailer frame is made from "C" channel steel, about 100 x 35mm. On one side, the C channel is rusted through, in the area under the mudguard - ie both in front of and behind the axle, where a cross section just happens to sit (it aligns with the axle). In the vertical bit of the "C" channel, in front of the axle/cross member there is an irregular area of about 30-40cm x 5cm that has been removed by rust. The horizontal bits of the C channel are intact. This is the only significant rust on the trailer.
I am presuming (probably wrong) that you can patch such a defect, without having to cut out the C section and weld in a new piece. Is it reasonable to try to bolt on a section of steel to strenghten it, or ought it be welded? If I bolt on some galvanised steel, can it be welded at a later date, or should I just use normal steel. Can I just use wood and epoxy? Most wooden boat forums suggest that epoxy can be used to fix anything...............maybe not?.......... Have I lost the plot? Should I just give up, and do my day job?
As always, any input would be appreciated
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4th November 2010, 09:13 AM #22 years from inception to completion
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I'll give a probably non useful answer and say if I was towing your trailer at 100 klicks an hour would you be happy sitting up my #### in your car? If the main structure supporting the springs and drawbar are that badly corroded it may not be safe at towing speed. Really need some pics to judge. We've all seen trailers on the road with see through rust and bent drawbars and really wonder what the owners are thinking. Do you think it safe on the road?
Cheers.
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4th November 2010, 04:54 PM #3
Andrew, for me, anything's fixable. But I don't patch, I cut out and replace. Would you patch a rusty section of your car's chassis with timber and epoxy?
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4th November 2010, 05:44 PM #4Member
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Buildspacetrain, actually the rusted bit doesn't look that scary in terms of driving on a freeway, however the springs which I am about to replace are scary. A nicely made point though.
Yonnee, thanks for that. The epoxy bit was tongue in cheek. My primary interest is wooden boats, and I recall a saying that anything in a wooden boat can be fixed with epoxy. I wondered whether it extended to other things in life! (but I suppose that body filler is basically like an epoxy, so, if you had a rusted out dent in a car, you would probably de-rust it, bog it, and sand it, rather than weld in a new piece.......other than on a chassis.
So, does one cut out just the rusted section from the C channel, and weld in a patch, or do I get a section of C channel cut out, and a newey welded in?
And yes, I'm sure that there is other rust. I'll try to find my camera, with the photos on it - hoping it's lurking in wife's handbag.
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4th November 2010, 10:58 PM #5Member
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Hi,,,when cutting out rust YOU replace it with steel..
I would replace hole rail or rails.
do it right get someone to check it out.
I am in to boats seen a lot of bad trailers......
Yes wood can be strong for boats,
Hydros doing 150 MPH are made of wood and epoxy.
But not trailers .
Tony
PS need some pics.
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7th November 2010, 07:48 AM #6
Remember if this trailer falls to bits on the road and takes someone out, some smartar## lawyer will take you to task. Its really not worth cutting corners.Besides if people continue to run seriously crappy trailers on the roads the govt hobknobs will simply make it harder for a backyarder to build/repair one, even if they do the right thing. I'm talking engineers reports, over the pits inspections etc... we dont want this.Jatt
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I will never be the person who has everything, not when someone keeps inventing so much cool new stuff to buy.
From an early age my father taught me to wear welding gloves . "Its not to protect your hands son, its to put out the fire when u set yourself alight".
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