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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ's Timber View Post


    Tack, check and tack again, then once all is done, weld diagonally.
    Yes, well ... don't have a flat floor (pavers) but have an all steel welding table. Its not the square I am concerned but the warp.
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    If it's warping, it hasn't been tacked enough or you're either not doing consistent welds, too much heat or welding out of order.

    I use sawhorses on an uneven gravel yard and can consistently get flat square frames.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Extra packing 25x25x2 against the verticals to allow for fixing the ply
    As soon as you add these, they're not just something to fix the ply to, they also add strength to the profile, meaning you can use less for the outer elements. This is my quick-arsed sketchup of my take on it:
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    The outer is all 50x25, as are the diagonals, the inner is 25x25. Should make for a crazy-strong door, particularly once the ply is added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyArc View Post
    As soon as you add these, they're not just something to fix the ply to, they also add strength to the profile, meaning you can use less for the outer elements. This is my quick-arsed sketchup of my take on it:
    door.jpg

    The outer is all 50x25, as are the diagonals, the inner is 25x25. Should make for a crazy-strong door, particularly once the ply is added.
    Yes, that would take care of the joint in the plywood!

    I know this is just academic but why the diagonals one up one down? Wouldn't you want the diagonals both upwards from the hinge up that is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ's Timber View Post
    If it's warping, it hasn't been tacked enough or you're either not doing consistent welds, too much heat or welding out of order.

    I use sawhorses on an uneven gravel yard and can consistently get flat square frames.
    Now you are getting technical. Tacking I understand, consistent welding too, but out of order?
    What is the correct order?
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    It's all about using the next weld to counteract against the previous weld.

    Just a quick sketch to to give you an idea.

    image.jpg

    Starting at one through to ten, weld the face, flip over and start from one through to ten again on the other face. Same again for inside and outside welds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    I know this is just academic but why the diagonals one up one down? Wouldn't you want the diagonals both upwards from the hinge up that is?
    I actually have no idea. I guess one argument is the diagonals transfer the load of the door to near the hinges, so the bottom diagonal is in compression and pushing against the bottom hinge, the top diagonal is in tension and pulling against the top hinge.

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