Thread: wheels

If they are Mini Moke wheels, then they are close enough to being Mini wheels, so start going around the wreckers, you may be lucky - been out of production for over 25 years. 25 years ago you could not even get the crushers to take old Mini's, so there is also a chance that some may show up in country dumps & auto graveyards.

I think mini wheels are smaller than the moke. My trailer is dual axle. Iv'e got three good wheels alresdy but need two to match.

More years ago than I care to remember I had a Topagee camper trailer that used Mini wheels (10"). We did a bit of camping in the bush and those little wheels were a real pain so I decided to upsize them. I looked at Moke wheels but they were hard to get, until someone pointed out that Morris Major wheels were the same size and stud pattern. At the time Morris Major wheels were very easy to get from the wreckers so I used them.

Might be a different story now though.

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or you can try early torana 13 wheels as they share the same stud pattern as mini but are differnt off set for a trailer it should not matter

Originally Posted by thesupervisor

or you can try early torana 13 wheels as they share the same stud pattern as mini but are differnt off set for a trailer it should not matter

HUH??!!! Not quite...

13" Torana are 5 stud on 4-1/4" (108mm) PCD. 10" Mini are 4 stud on 4" (101.6)mm PCD with 3/8" studs. And I think you'll also find that Moke runs 12". Morris Minor runs the same pattern in a 13" The very first Toranas that ran 12" rims were the same stud pattern, 4 on 4", however, they have 7/16" studs.

I have a chart at home I'll look at in an hour to confirm.

Pugwash. If you're sure they're 13", they won't be "Mini", they could be Morris Minor or Austin Healey.
There are plenty of 4 stud rims that size, but stud patterns vary.
Mini - 4 on 98mm PCD
Gemini & many late model FWD's - 4 on 100mm PCD
Early Mazda - 4 on 110mm PCD
Datsun - 4 on 4.25" PCD
Toyota & Mitsubishi - 4 on 4.5" PCD

Any chance of a photo of your rims?

What size studs does it have?

Yonnee, I put new hubs and bearings on last year. Got em from Martins Trailer parts in Perth.
The hubs actually have MINI stamped on them. They dont sell wheels though. Not the ones I need anyway.My rims measure 13" diameter (if thats how you measure 'em.)
What is PCD?

Originally Posted by pugwash

My rims measure 13" diameter (if thats how you measure 'em.)
What is PCD?

This will tell you about PCD and how to measure a rim, along with other stuff such as offset.

Nev

What will Nev?

Originally Posted by pugwash

What will Nev?

Sorry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_sizing

Nev

sorry i should have said i think about the torana rims mabe they where vauxual viva? there was a few in perth when i was into the mini scene a few years ago now but one thing i know for certain is all mini mokes from about 79 onwards had 13'' wheels and they had spacers on the rear drums to get the clearance the only 12'' mini was the 1275 ls mini think it was late 77 till 79

Originally Posted by Yonnee

HUH??!!! Not quite...

13" Torana are 5 stud on 4-1/4" (108mm) PCD. 10" Mini are 4 stud on 4" (101.6)mm PCD with 3/8" studs. And I think you'll also find that Moke runs 12". Morris Minor runs the same pattern in a 13" The very first Toranas that ran 12" rims were the same stud pattern, 4 on 4", however, they have 7/16" studs.

I have a chart at home I'll look at in an hour to confirm.

Pugwash. If you're sure they're 13", they won't be "Mini", they could be Morris Minor or Austin Healey.
There are plenty of 4 stud rims that size, but stud patterns vary.
Mini - 4 on 98mm PCD
Gemini & many late model FWD's - 4 on 100mm PCD
Early Mazda - 4 on 110mm PCD
Datsun - 4 on 4.25" PCD
Toyota & Mitsubishi - 4 on 4.5" PCD

Any chance of a photo of your rims?

What size studs does it have?

Thanks Nev. Good information.
That's told me everything I need to know.
All I have to do now is find some.

Originally Posted by pugwash

Yonnee, I put new hubs and bearings on last year. Got em from Martins Trailer parts in Perth.
The hubs actually have MINI stamped on them. They dont sell wheels though. Not the ones I need anyway.My rims measure 13" diameter (if thats how you measure 'em.)
What is PCD?

Where did you measure them? The diameter measurement is taken from the base of the where the bead seats in the rim, not the overall diameter of the lip of the rim.

What are the numbers on the side of your tyre? Should be something like 145/70R10 or 165/60R12. From this I can tell you what size rim you have.

Cortina 4 cyl Mk 1 and 2 had 13 in wheels which match the Morris Minor stud pattern. Escort Mk 1 and 2 have the same pattern but might have 12 or 13 in wheels. The Viva and early 4 cyl torana were closely related and shared many bits including wheels.
I think that most of the 13in (and possibly 12 in) British 4 stud wheels from the 50's through 70's used the same stud pattern, although there might be a bit of difference in stud size.

Ideally you need to match the rims that you have, or het a full set that match. There are sometimes full or part sets on fleabay.

Tyre and wheel places often have charts to match diameters, offsets, and stud layout for people upgrading to alloys. Access to these charts for a short time might be usefull for suggesting suitable alternative donors.

This whole wheel size is a very insestuous deal.
All sorts of mix and match wheel deals were done, both factory condoned and not.

As we know minis came with 10", and most mokes came with 12". But grafting 12" onto minis was not uncommon. There were mokes getting arround with 10" wheels on them , but they looked exceptionlay silly.

I dod not know that the four cylinder for pattern was the same as the BL pattern.

Anyway
I would be very interested if somene could point me to an online PCD and offset reference.....it would be very handy from time to time.

There are places that will fab up steel wheels or drill up alloy wheels to spec.

There used to be a place called "wilsons wheel works" ( long gone) up here is brisbane and they would build you whatever you wanted.
They just build wheels, hubs and trailer axles.
But they shut down every day for an hour at lunch time, which was abugger if you were trying to do a lunchtime foreigner.

Anyway there might be a place like that near you.


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