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23rd April 2022, 01:44 PM #1Senior Member
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Is a bread box big stuff?
Work in progress. It has some joinery so I'll put it here. If the mods want to move it, fine with me.
My niece asked her mother (my sister) if Uncle Gary would make her a breadbox. My sister asked me, and here we are.
The wood is butternut, Juglans cineria, which I bought about 40 years ago and have been hauling around since. It was air dried and is wonderful to work but a little soft and dents easily. Sometimes called "white walnut" since it is the same genus but a different species as the North American black walnut.
Looking for an opportunity to overdo it, I decided to use hidden mitered dovetails for the box so the figure would flow up one side, across the top, and down the other side.
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For the door I chose a black walnut panel. From my stash, I looked for something with nice figure and found a piece that was OK but not great. Then I got the idea to carve cross grain grooves into its surface. I had done that recently for a small tray and liked the effect. Doing it here really transformed the panel. Since the rest of the box is so spare, I think this works.
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I still need to re-make the door frame (got the mitered and through tenon joinery layout a bit wrong), do a final fitting of the dovetails and miters, and other finishing details.
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23rd April 2022, 02:35 PM #2
That is pretty; never thought that simple grooves could give that sort of effect!
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24th April 2022, 01:04 AM #4Senior Member
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A gentleman never tells his true age !
The idea to groove the panel surface came from making a traditional Japanese tray called a wagatabon, which were always carved from a single plank. Here is one I made in black cherry.
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24th April 2022, 05:07 PM #5
The Black Cherry almost looks like someone's welding practice. Very effective.
Dallas
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30th April 2022, 12:44 PM #6Senior Member
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Getting closer. Got the box final fitted and glued up. The slanted front and miters meant throwing a variety of clamps at it. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
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Today I tried to fit the door but I ran into problems. I had chosen to miter and through tenon the door frame but in fitting the frame to the box opening I changed the dimensions of the rails and stiles enough that the miters no longer met at the corner points. I measured carefully but that slanted box front confused my understanding of my reference points. I'm also using center pivot hinges/knife hinges and that adds more difficulty since I have to consider the sweep angles. I bit off a little more than I could chew this time.
I'm using hide glue so I steamed the door frame apart and will make another one tomorrow.
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30th April 2022, 02:35 PM #7.... some old things are lovely
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1st May 2022, 01:14 PM #8Senior Member
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Thanks, Tom. The issue with the hinges was new one for me. I wanted to have any hardware hidden as much as possible. That led me to knife hinges. There are basically two styles, center pivot and offset. For inset doors offset would be the more common choice but the with a slant front the offset part of the hinge ends up in an awkward visual position to my eye, as seen on the right in the sketch. But with a center pivot hinge one needs to relieve either the door or the case or both to accommodate the sweep of the hinge stile (or rail in my case).
Here is a sketch of the issue as I saw it.
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Ideally I wanted to have a equal reveal all around the door. But how to manage the clearance at the top and bottom of the door and how high or low to put the hinge wasn't obvious to me.
I decided to go with the center pivot and carve out a cove on the base of the box, using the dimensions of the drawing on the left.
I made a mockup of one hinge corner with some scrap boards and that seemed to work. Then I took a deep breath and cut the mortises for the case halfs of the hinge. Here is one side of the real box. These are hinges from Brusso, made in New Jersey, USA. Generally regarded as high quality and I agree. The fit and finish is superb. They make them in various sizes in brass and stainless steel.
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Then I fit the door side hinges and that's when I ran into trouble fitting the rest of the door and messing up the miters, etc.
New door frame made and glued up today. Now to a glass of wine and a good dinner.
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2nd May 2022, 11:15 AM #9Senior Member
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Done except for the second coat of oil finish.
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2nd May 2022, 11:25 AM #10
Very nicely done.
The fluted door panel adds a touch of spice.
Tom.... some old things are lovely
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4th May 2022, 11:47 AM #11wood butcher
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That looks very nice indeed, quite unique. Hopefully it will store many a home made loaf of bread over the coming years.
Bread, coffee and bacon, my 3 favourite perfumes.
The only issues I can see are they way you spell centre and mitre...
Cheers from downunder
Bryan
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