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23rd January 2024, 01:44 PM #31GOLD MEMBER
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Derek, Wouldn't it just be a matter of cutting off the tenons and digging mortises instead?
Another thought for you- Working on the 30mm length of the integral mortises equates to an extra 60mm required for length of each base. In an eight chair setting this becomes another seat base worth of material going to waste.
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23rd January 2024, 02:06 PM #32
Thank you Rusty for posting before me. I was trying to work out how to raise the same issues constructively but now you have done so quite elegantly.
Derek's efforts inadvertently probably partially answers that old perennial question as to why Sam Maloof did his chair leg/seat joints the way he did. Some are almost as light as Derek's design.
Originally Posted by derekcohen
My own preferred method is to draw the components on a CAD program and then bring them together so I can examine them from every viewpoint and anticipate stress points. Then I move to maquettes in cheap timber - radiata or E nitens - and/or a prototype which is really a 100% scale maquette. I lack the confidence to start cutting presentation timber so early.
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24th January 2024, 02:33 AM #33
Sometimes it is an ill-wind that blows good. I am now rather pleased I am remaking the seats as I have found better info on the original chair, and details of the seat design. I have the legs right but not the seat.
In the mock up at the factory, the seat was screwed to the legs, but the final version used mortice-and-tenon. These joints are made very solid by a great deal of supporting mass around them. I plan to make the joints loose tenons for extra strength, but try and follow the original design in this regard. (At this stage it is a toss up whether I copy the arms or go with a design I think is more elegant).
Here is a video I found of the build:
The chairs are sold in Oz for $3600 each.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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24th January 2024, 08:04 AM #34
Interesting, Derek. There are at least four ways of attaching the seat in that video:
- Through tenons,
- Screws,
- Under seat rails,
- Cross rails.
I had trouble reconciling the alignment of the tenons on the seat with the mortices on the legs. One seemed vertical, the other sloped?
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24th January 2024, 10:30 AM #35
Graeme, in my first rendition of the seats, the front and rear tenons were both made at a slope of 10 degrees. I did fit the legs, and this angle appeared correct. That is what I shall stay with.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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25th January 2024, 04:48 PM #36
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25th January 2024, 05:42 PM #37
Hi Ian
That is one of the slicks I have in a set made for me by Kiyohisa about 20 years ago. This one is probably about 30mm wide.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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25th January 2024, 10:01 PM #38
Another video of the DC09 chair by the Scandinavian–Japanese duo Inoda + Sveje in 2011.
DC09 Chair designed by Inoda+Sveje on Vimeo
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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