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    The next step was to arrange matters so the top slid open on drawer runners. The problem was how to do this without being able to see the runners or any gaps for them. The runners selected were of the "push to open" type. Therefore, the top is opened by pulling it torwards yourself (unlocking it) and then releasing it so it springs open away from you.

    The first pic shows the back and the top of the cabinet from underneath. Note the frame with mitred corners between the cabinet and the top.

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    The second pic shows the fix. Three sides of the mitred frame are fastened to the cabinet. The fourth side is held to the top with brass screws through slots that allow this piece of frame to move as the runners are unlocked.
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    Once the runners are unlocked, and allowed to spring forward, this forth section of frame moves to the open position with the top, as shown in the next pic.
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    The reverse happens when closing. The rubber bands hold the fourth section of frame firmly in position once the runners are again locked.

    The darned thing works like a charm, and the fact that it has runners is invisible when the top is closed.

    Have fun!

    John

    EDIT:
    Forgot to mention that the back of the unit has five false drawers. They are all fixed in place. The front has four real drawers. The top drawer to the front is another false drawer. So, there are ten brass knobs to be fitted, but only four of them are real drawers. Made it this way so it looked pretty from any angle.

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    I should have added that another option for a sliding top is to use the "soft close" runners rather than the "push to open" type.

    If the soft close variety is used, the need for a spring loaded contraption is eliminated. Everything else remains the same, including the section of frame that rides forward with the top.

    My sister opted for the push to open variety, so one section of the frame under the top needed to be spring loaded.

    Cheerio!

    John

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    Hi John,
    Does the opening top reveal a sewing machine or something else? Was there a particular thinking for opening the top like you have done? From the pics looks like a nice solution




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    Pete,

    Originally, my sister asked for a hinged top. I suggested to her that a because it is a workplace a craft cabinet nearly always had something on top of it, making lifting a hinged top problematic. She went home, did a little crafty work with her existing craft table and soon decided that a hinged top would not work. So, I offered to make her a sliding top that could be opened and closed even though it was littered with her crafty stuff.

    The new ball bearing sliding runners work very well in this application. I used them for the jewellery section of my wife's Frilly Nickers Cabinet. You can put a couple of kilograms on the top of the cabinet and it springs open on its runners as smooth as you like ... and closes again just as easily. When it is finished, I'll make a video of it in action.

    The cabinet has four drawers as well as the top section which is accessed via the sliding top. The intention is that the most commonly used stuff would go in this top section.

    Cheerio!

    John

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    Coming along nicely John!!!

    That top is sure clever but is it clever enough to confuse the kids??

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    Hi John,
    Beautiful work there and I agree with you about Camphor being good to work and quite stable. You have done a great job with whole piece my only criticism would be for me I feel the base should be flush with the outside of the cabinet to show of the cabriole legs to there best advantage for me the square overhang on the legs looks wrong. But that is me and I cannot and do not want to take away the from wonderful job you have done here.
    Regards Rod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artme View Post
    Coming along nicely John!!!

    That top is sure clever but is it clever enough to confuse the kids??
    Nothing is that clever ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Gilbert View Post
    Hi John,
    Beautiful work there and I agree with you about Camphor being good to work and quite stable. You have done a great job with whole piece my only criticism would be for me I feel the base should be flush with the outside of the cabinet to show of the cabriole legs to there best advantage for me the square overhang on the legs looks wrong. But that is me and I cannot and do not want to take away the from wonderful job you have done here.
    Regards Rod.
    Awww, Rod,

    You weren't supposed to notice that. Some fool misread his tape measure and didn't notice the goof until he was fastening the base to the carcass and was out of camphor.

    Bugger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Samuel View Post
    Pete,

    Originally, my sister asked for a hinged top. I suggested to her that a because it is a workplace a craft cabinet nearly always had something on top of it, making lifting a hinged top problematic. She went home, did a little crafty work with her existing craft table and soon decided that a hinged top would not work. So, I offered to make her a sliding top that could be opened and closed even though it was littered with her crafty stuff.

    The new ball bearing sliding runners work very well in this application. I used them for the jewellery section of my wife's Frilly Nickers Cabinet. You can put a couple of kilograms on the top of the cabinet and it springs open on its runners as smooth as you like ... and closes again just as easily. When it is finished, I'll make a video of it in action.

    The cabinet has four drawers as well as the top section which is accessed via the sliding top. The intention is that the most commonly used stuff would go in this top section.

    Cheerio!

    John
    If it was anything like here it would never be clear of stuff, so yes I see the thinking

    Quote Originally Posted by John Samuel View Post
    Awww, Rod,

    You weren't supposed to notice that. Some fool misread his tape measure and didn't notice the goof until he was fastening the base to the carcass and was out of camphor.

    Bugger!
    That fool! he is here as well


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    Quote Originally Posted by pjt View Post
    That fool! he is here as well


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    Do you a deal. Next time either of us sees him ... shoot him!

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    Aw don't be too hard on Sum Foo Ill, after all it is all fool's day to day.
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    Enough is enough, more than enough is too much.

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    Hi john and all,
    Don't be to hard on you're selves you only cut timber a bit short, a month ago I rearranged the end of my left thumb on my new router I am building into a router bench/cabinet on a brand new bit you want stupid there it is.
    Regards Rod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Gilbert View Post
    Hi john and all,
    Don't be to hard on you're selves you only cut timber a bit short, a month ago I rearranged the end of my left thumb on my new router I am building into a router bench/cabinet on a brand new bit you want stupid there it is.
    Regards Rod.
    and OUCH!!!!

    Inearly removed my right thumb 18 months ago on the table saw. As a result I finally built the long promised sled.

    Wonder how many of us have had close shaves??

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    Artme and Rod,

    A long time ago a wise man said to me that any fool can learn from his own mistakes; that a cat will do as much. He went on to say that the smart man is the one who can learn from the mistakes of others.

    I'm trying, but am not always as successful as I would like. I suppose none of us are.

    Cheerio!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Samuel View Post
    Artme and Rod,



    but am not always as successful as I would like.

    Cheerio!

    John
    You are being too modest John. Your work on these forums looks to be a very high standard to me.

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