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    Default How to do these drawers?

    I am planning another build as a wedding gift, this time a niece. She picked out this entry hall table, which she wants in Jarrah.





    Straightforward enough build, with the case in mitred through dovetails the only tricky bit. I've done a few of these now, so know what lies in store.


    There appear to be two drawers. The question is, how does one build drawers without handles?


    I am not in favour (and will not do) drawers on runners. Or use those Push-it mechanisms, which are made of plastic and will last about 5 years, if lucky. I build traditional dovetailed drawers.


    One idea I had was to incorporate the lower bevelled case edge/rail into the drawers, and use this as a handle. However, I foresee the difficulty in getting everything to line up perfectly. I like the concept, but not sure about the practicality.


    Any other ideas for handless or, if nothing else, complementary handles?


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    Could you not put a slot underneath to put a finger in and pull the drawer forward

    Rick

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    Rick, that is a consideration. The only issue is that it changes the flow of straight lines. But it is a good idea.

    Regards From Perth

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    Hi Derek,

    I suspect Rick means a slot or finger groove in the drawer bottoms. These would not be seen. Reach underneath to pull open the drawer.

    Two other options:
    1. Make false drawer fronts that pivot about 1/3 of the way along. Press on the edge to have the opposite edge pop out to form a handle.

    2. Embed a neodymium magnet under the veneer, and make a removable handle with matching magnet

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossM View Post
    Hi Derek,

    I suspect Rick means a slot or finger groove in the drawer bottoms. These would not be seen. Reach underneath to pull open the drawer.
    Exactly, you just said it better )

    Rick

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    Hi Derek,

    Could you use the hidden "ush and open/push and close" type of device?

    Regards,

    Rob

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    Hi Derek,

    The angled sectional/veneer drawer front reminded me of this piece I saw last year by Chris Salomon, which if you intend to retain that element may offer an option. The idea sets part of the drawer front back, and adds a finger pull on the protruding edge.

    To my mind, if you did this vertically at centre of each drawer on an existing join line, it would "disappear" when viewed front on.

    Kind regards,
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    As Rob suggested, push to open drawer runners. I built a four drawer vanity recently and used these, they work well.

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    Gday Derek. Use as part of the drawer the mitred side trims as draw pulls? Or the bottom horizontal trim cut in halves?

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    Sorry Derek, I missed the bit about not wanting to use push to open runners, but that's how the one pictured would be done.

    If you had to use a handle, maybe the top lip pull type? But might look strange with the beveled edges.

    My vote goes to the finger slot underneath.

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    A finger hole through the base of the cabinet at mid span of each draw. Holes needs to be just large enough to allow finger action to move the drawer forward enough to then use the top edge of the drawer fronts as a handle. Keep the holes towards the front for easy reach. The holes will also double as a vent to prevent "puffing" as the drawers are pushed closed.

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    Mount a short stiff compression spring between the back of the drawer and the cabinet back. It would act as a soft stop when closing the drawer but when compressed and then released quickly the drawer would pop open enough for you to access the front of the drawer and pull it out.

    For this to work you need to have very free running drawers but I'm sure that that is within your capabilities.

    Of course you will need to do some experiments to determine the correct spring characteristics.

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    Although it's unlikely, due to this being a hall table, is it possible that the drawers are double sided? Due to the legs appearing to be attached using splayed metal fixtures it would seem unlikely that anything too elaborate has been used for the drawer opening mechanism. That being said, the veneered fronts on the drawers would seem to indicate some quality to the piece.

    I think I'd just be telling her that she has to have some kind of drawer pull.
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    Hi,
    What about leaving most of the bottom open so a hand can be placed under the draw to open it, like a lot of Welsh dressers.
    Good luck
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    Another way would be to have a "seesaw" jigger behind the drawers so that when you push 1 drawer in a bit the other is pushed open as in diagram below.

    Draw opening diagram.JPG


    Advantages are that there is no reliance on springs or plastic bits and the front is kept clean. The disadvantage is that it will take up some space and therefore make the drawers smaller. Of course you may be able fit something similar under the drawers depending on construction of the side rails that they run on. It will also be up to the user to make sure the drawers are in line when closed unless you can build in some kind of registering feature.

    Looking forward to seeing your version finished.
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