Thread: Entry hall table for a niece

Looking forward to follow the build Derek.
How do you rate the machineability of the Jarrah?

Jacques

Derek,

"...all boards are stickered and clamped using steel square sections."

I understand why you are doing so but would have thought that the timber selected for this project would be well seasoned and stable.
Is the re-sawing releasing internal tension in the timber to cause twisting/warping?

The movement of timber still remains a mystery to me

Yvan

Hi Derek, looking forward to seeing your progress with this build. I'm putting the finish on my Moxon vice today, your wip's on here are a constant source of inspiration.

Are the clamps in your pic's (the red jaw one's) the Chinese versions of the Bessey Uniklamp (branded Duratec?) any good? I've often looked at them and been tempted. A few of the 16" versions would be a very handy fit between the 300mm and 600mm full size clamps.

Originally Posted by botesmj1

Looking forward to follow the build Derek.
How do you rate the machineability of the Jarrah?

Jacques

Hi Jacque

This Jarrah machines very easily. In part this is due to the 4 hp of the K3, and also a brand new carbide 1" Woodmaster blade in the bandsaw, which is also 4 hp. The surface finish is just that off the thicknesser, and the quality is rather dull. It will be hand planned to finish.

I must add that I am so impressed with this Woodmaster blade. It is my second, with the first used over a few years. This one leaves a much better finish.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by yvan

Derek,

"...all boards are stickered and clamped using steel square sections."

I understand why you are doing so but would have thought that the timber selected for this project would be well seasoned and stable.
Is the re-sawing releasing internal tension in the timber to cause twisting/warping?

The movement of timber still remains a mystery to me

Yvan

Yvan, all wood moves a little. I have found that restricting movement with cauls and clamps reduces movement as much as possible. Over a week, the wood moves and then relaxes. Better than it relaxes in the shape I want.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by aldav

Hi Derek, looking forward to seeing your progress with this build. I'm putting the finish on my Moxon vice today, your wip's on here are a constant source of inspiration.

Are the clamps in your pic's (the red jaw one's) the Chinese versions of the Bessey Uniklamp (branded Duratec?) any good? I've often looked at them and been tempted. A few of the 16" versions would be a very handy fit between the 300mm and 600mm full size clamps.

David, the Chinese versions are better! The grips on the handles are more like the Bessey K Body Revo. The Uniklamp feels flimsy by comparison.

I did not realise that these were Uniklamp copies when I ordered them. I thought they were going to be shorter parallel clamps - I needed 12"/300mm lengths. I doubt that I would go longer on this type of clamp. I do have a bunch of Revos, which I like.

And thanks for the kind words.

Regards from Perth

Derek

We are building a version of this hall table ...





We left off last time with basic preparation of stock from rough sawn boards ..





A word of introduction before continuing: while I am best known for hand tool work, I am a blended woodworker and have a pretty full compliment of power tools, which I use. It is horses for courses - power does the grunt work and hands do the details and joinery. So there are machines here as well as hand tools, and I like to believe they coexist well in my builds, as they should.


I began this session by turning the legs ...








The Jarrah for the legs turned out a few shades lighter than expected, and I made an extra piece to experiment with different dye mixes. A final decision shall be made once the case is completed.


The panels needed to sized, which involved measuring from the centre line of the book-matched panels. The quickest way to square this up was to mark a line (in blue tape), and plane to it ... much faster than using power saws, etc.








Once done, you can square up on a jointer ..





... rip to width ...





... and cross cut ...





Here are the panels for the case (sides yet to be dimensioned for height) ...





Packed away for the night ...





When marking the dovetails, it pays to work precisely. Mark carefully ...








My favourite dovetail saw is usually the one I sharpened most recently. This is an original Independence Tools saw by Pete Taran (circa 1995) ..





Completed side panels ...





It begins to be a little more fun as I get to use one of the features I recently built into my new Moxon vise - the Microjig clamps (details of Moxon vise here: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMad...LastMoxon.html).


These are used to hold the tail board to transfer to the pin board ...





Here you see the transferred tails outline in blue tape (easier to see in the hard wood). On the left is a model of the mitred ends that will be part of this build ...





Saw the pins ...





Note that the end pins are not sawn on the outsides.


Now turn the board around, and strike a vertical line at the outer pin ...





Saw this on the diagonal only. Do both sides ...





Place the board flat on the bench and create a chisel wall for each pin (earlier, this would have been done for each tail) ...





The chisel wall will make it easier to create a coplanar baseline when removing the waste (by preventing the chisel moving back over the line). Do this on both sides of the board before proceeding.


Now you can fretsaw away the waste.





Try and get this to about 1mm above the baseline ...





Here is a video of the process:


YouTube


To create the mitred ends, first mark ...





... and saw about 1mm from the line. This will later be flushed with a chisel for accuracy.





And so this is where we are up to at the end of the weekend ...





So will the sides fit ... or won't they .... mmmmm


Regards from Perth


Derek

Derek

What is the source of your Chinese clamps?

Cheers Yvan

Looks like another interesting build!
I take a similar approach with mixing power and hand tools; power for roughing and hand for refining. I see that you went from using a jointer plane then to Hammer jointer, my approach is slightly different in that I’ll start using a hand electric plane (for really rough edges), then the powered jointer but I finish off with a jointing plane to give the best glue surface. Are you finding the finish off the Hammer to be good enough as is or did you give the edges a final lick with the HNT jointer before glueing? My electric jointer is a straight knived 6” long bed from Timbecon; good enough for carpentry but not for joinery.

Originally Posted by yvan

Derek

What is the source of your Chinese clamps?

Cheers Yvan

After seeing Derek's post and recommendation I've recently bought 4 of these Yvan, they're branded 'Duratec'. There are 3 sellers on eBay that are variously too expensive or don't let you choose a size (go figure?). I bought mine from this seller on Aliexpress - 8/12/16/24 Inch F Parallel Clamp Heavy 80mm Depth F Clamp Woodworking Clamp Adjustable DIY Wood Carpenter Clamps Grip-in Clamps from Home Improvement on AliExpress - they were sent with Toll and arrived in about 10 days. I bought the 400mm (16") size and they were about $32 each delivered. There are quite a few sellers of these on Aliexpress and it would pay to do a bit of a search to ensure the best deal. They're probably also available on other Chinese shopping sites such as Banggood, but I've never had good experiences with them so I stick to Aliexpress.

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I purchased the clamps on Bangood. They appear cheaper there than AliExpress: 8/12/16/24 inch f parallel clamp heavy duty 80mm depth f clamp woodworking clamp Sale - Banggood.com

Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by aldav

After seeing Derek's post and recommendation I've recently bought 4 of these Yvan...

How do they compare to the clamps you used to sell (which I'm still smitten with)?

Originally Posted by LanceC

How do they compare to the clamps you used to sell (which I'm still smitten with)?

I've posted a response here - Parallel Action Clamps Compared to Duratec Lightweight Clamps - Lance. Don't want to hijack Derek's thread, which I'm following very closely.