Thread: A George II Elm Corner Cupboard

That's right.
A dog's philosophy on life, "If you can't eat it, you can't fight it and you can't **** it, on it"
A real no wast out look.
Regards

I'd be tempted to laminate that elm, turn it into a baseball bat and use it on someone

If the forum member is still plying his wares on this forum, he should be outed to warn others.


joez

Yes ! He should be

Originally Posted by joez

If the forum member is still plying his wares on this forum, he should be outed to warn others.


joez

I'm being civil and discreet for the moment as I'm trying to get my $70 back! So far my request has fallen on deaf ears, but if I don't get satisfaction soon, then there definitely will be wigs on the green!

1.8 meters, 130 kg, extensive rugby union career ( to help temper my savage nature) at your service next time I'm in Melbourne. Would be happy to return the elm to the poor fellow. I'm sure he regrets parting with such exquisit timber and will be more than delighted upon its return.

Jeez! When I get treated shabbily like that WW I revert to my Russian name - Pistoff!

Judging by the photographs WW has supplied there is a breach of sections Sections 53A and 58A part ii of the Trade Practices Act:

Section 53: Deals with false or misleading representations. You or your company are not allowed to supply, or promote, any goods or services by engaging in any of the following:
(A) falsely state the goods or service offered is of a particular standard, value, grade, composition, style or model or have a particular history or previous use.


Section 58: Accepting payment without intending or being able to supply as ordered.
A company shall not, in trade or commerce, accept payment for goods or services where at the time of acceptance:
(A) the company intends:
(i) not to supply the goods or services, or

(ii) to supply goods or services materially different from the goods or services in respect of which the payment was accepted.

Most sales people and people selling stuff should be aware of the Act and the penalties, an uninformed player could loose their house, the fines are very stiff.

I thought that only applied to 'corporations' or enterprises. This sounds like it is just some dodgy bugger from the internet (who ever heard of dodgy buggers on the internet?). But either way, if it's not that, then it's just straight-up fraud.

Anyhow, your reference piece has me a bit intrigued. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Originally Posted by Noctoadal

I thought that only applied to 'corporations' or enterprises. This sounds like it is just some dodgy bugger from the internet (who ever heard of dodgy buggers on the internet?). But either way, if it's not that, then it's just straight-up fraud.

Anyhow, your reference piece has me a bit intrigued. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

It applies to individuals selling also, my reference is straight from the Act which I have a copy of on my book shelf

Metropolitan-made corner cupboards and cabinets, and those of a later date, employed sophisticated joinery in the form of sliding dovetails, rebates or trenches to enhance carcase rigidity, but often these carcases were simply glued and nailed together. That nailed examples still survive in their thousands is testament enough to the efficiency of their construction.

The flat fronts of the carcases normally consist of morticed and tennoned rectangular frames, with the rails partially visible beneath the cornice and above the bottom moulding. However, with this particular piece, the mouldings are situated right on the upper and lower edges of the door opening. The bottom 'rail' is only the height of the shallow moulding and is, in effect, merely a packer, glued to the front of the base board to support the moulding. The top rail is morticed and tennoned into the stiles and again, is only the height of the (cornice) moulding.

I rubbed some 1/2" and 3/4" pine boards together for the triangular shelves and the carcase end boards respectively. The cupboard's elm stiles and sides were bevelled where they meet and rebates were planed in the back edges of the sides which will eventually accommodate the pine backboards. The stiles and sides were rubbed together and then I rubbed two glue blocks-cum-shelf supports into the interior angles of each stile/side assembly.

The end boards and stile/side assemblies.

I glued the top front rail into the stiles and glued the bottom 'rail' to the front of the bottom board. The top and bottom end boards were then glued and nailed to the stile/side assemblies and finally, the backboards were nailed in place.

The backboards nailed to the end boards.

Bevelled pine shelf supports were glued and nailed to the backboards and the shaped shelves were also nailed in place.

The shelves installed.

The cornice and bottom mouldings were made up and attached to the carcase.

The cornice...



… and the bottom moulding.



The finished carcase.

Are the styles and the pieces at 135Deg just a rubbed joint?

Looking Good and rapid progress

Originally Posted by Peter36

Are the styles and the pieces at 135Deg just a rubbed joint?

Yes Peter, they're just rubbed together.

In the only past experience I have of watching a cabinet maker in action, those top and bottom mouldings would have been made on a shaper or spindle moulder.
I can't imagine you allowing such a thing in your workshop.
How, therefore, do you make them?
I would think a plane of some sort, but that top moulding is quite detailed.
Can you elaborate for me please?
Jim