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4th November 2009, 05:51 PM #1New Member
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Looking for large quantities of aspen shavings
Hi folks,
I'm at the Australian Reptile Park in Gosford, NSW. We maintain a very large number of snakes in our venom production program, and (especially) our python breeding facility 'Snake Ranch'. We are at wits end with the non-availability of a good substrate for maintaining the snakes on. I'm therefore trying to find a source of by-product shavings/shreddings from aspen tree or poplar tree. Wish to import 40' container full. Did find one source in US, but the economy state has seen them halt working with aspen. Please, ANY leads or ideas would be very helpful to us. Sincerely,
John Weigel [email protected]
Director
www.reptilepark.com.au and
www.snakeranch.com.au
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5th November 2009, 02:17 AM #2
Hi, and welcome. Try Brymays . They grow plantations of poplar for Redheads matches.
everything is something, for a reason:confused:
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5th November 2009, 04:58 AM #3
,just wondering why Aspen or Poplar?
and if there are any Australian equivalents?
what if the hokey pokey is really what it's all about?
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5th November 2009, 09:06 AM #4New Member
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Rowie,
Thankyou so much for that lead. I'll Google that mob and see where it goes. I am aware of many abandoned matchstic Poplar plantations on mid-North Coast. I understand that most of the industry shifted to India leaving many growers flat.
Underfoot, the problem with most forms of shreded or shavings of timber for reptile bedding is the irritants and toxins contained. The 'bedding' ends up in the snake's water bowl, and if it is conifer or Euc based, the resulting 'soup' is bad news for the snake. Maybe there are other non-toxic timber byproducts, but the aspen is the tried and proven one that is enormously popular in USA. I'm thinking that since aspen is same genus as poplar, that similar qualities will exist...
Best wishes,
John
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5th November 2009, 09:37 AM #5
So normal old raddiatta pine no good? Is supposed to have anti bacterial qualities. But I guess that could mean anti snake too.
anne-maria.
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5th November 2009, 10:14 AM #6New Member
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Tea Lady,
Yes, you're right, conifers are good at protecting themselves from invertebrates AND vertebrates, though some animals get around that (e.g. porcupines eat the stuff).
Have hit a brick wall with Brymay Forestry. I suspect they went belly-up with the rest of the matchstick industry. Hope someone can give me a further lead for either Brymay or any other milling that is done with poplar trees.
Regards
John
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5th November 2009, 10:50 AM #7
Often poplar is used for those plantation blinds. So maybe someone who makes those would be able to supply shavings for your beasties. This is a google search for "poplar shutters Gosford"
Another wood that is used for this is Palownia - you might find that it is suitable for reptiles.Cheers
Jeremy
If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly
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5th November 2009, 11:37 AM #8
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16th November 2009, 12:56 PM #9
Sounds like a job for a bodger.......isn't there someone running a greenwoodworking school in NSW?
We don't know how lucky we are......
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16th November 2009, 01:49 PM #10New Member
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Have followed quite a few leads, but bottom line appears to be that there is absolutely no use being made of the abandoned poplar plantations, from Victoria to southern Qld. The 'poplar' timber blinds that are 'popular' in Australia appear to be all imported from China, and the matchstick industry has relocated to India. You wood-workers ought to figure out a market for the timber - and if you do, keep me in mind for the resulting sawdust and shavings!
Best wishes all, and thanks for the help. Am now moving to other ideas for the solution to this challenge - e.g. importing containers of shredded aspen wood from US.
John
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