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28th July 2018, 09:52 PM #61GOLD MEMBER
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Tie-beam nearly done. Cut the summer beam pockets and half-dovetail tenons. After cutting the first tenon cheeks and shoulders using a Stanley 24" handsaw I realised that it was a lot of work haha.
I then thought I'd give using an axe to waste away the bulk of the tenon cheek waste a go - seemed like a fun thing to try. Of course I don't have an axe. Luckily my fiancee wanted to go for a nice drive to Kyneton and I figured I'd pick up a Grunsfors Bruks carpenters axe while there. No dice - they had just sold out! So back home after killing 3 hours and decided that it was much quicker and easier just using a circular saw to waste the tenon cheeks and clean up with plane and chisel (same as after hand saw).
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Hopefully I can get the tie beam finished (brace mortises and rebates) and test fit to the posts tomorrow between other tasks. Then bring in the next set of posts and beam to work on.
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14th August 2018, 08:07 AM #62GOLD MEMBER
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Bit more progress although I really need to take some time off work as I'm just not finding enough time on weekends.
Test fit one set of posts and beam. Fit was tight. After some adjustment I managed to hammer them together and things came together nicely - and square! Was not expecting that!
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Got a carpenters axe and started using it on some parts - surprisingly easy to control and can be pushed like a chisel to pare.
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Finished the second set of posts and beam - just need to test fit to mark the offset tenon holes and measure for braces.
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Started on the last tie-beam yesterday. It was very out of square and required a bit of work.
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Cheers, Dom
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27th August 2018, 10:06 PM #63GOLD MEMBER
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Well I have all three sets of posts and beams cut and test fit. Moved onto cutting braces. Then this weekend I'll cut the post brace mortises and start on the wall plates. Keep chipping away one piece at a time!
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Things were getting messy...
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Cheers, Dom
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16th September 2018, 10:39 AM #64GOLD MEMBER
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Cut some braces.
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Then cut some braces for the angled wall plates on the side that will have a 4.1deg taper. Some head scratching to figure out the compound angles was involved.
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On a positive note I'm getting better at cutting to the line using my Japanese Ryoba so that is speeding things up a bit.
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And then starting on wall plate tenons -
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A bit of rough sanity-check layout.
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Cheers, Dom
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23rd September 2018, 07:34 AM #65GOLD MEMBER
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Dry fitting the wall plates and braces. Things aren't fitting together without a bit of fettling, but they are coming together in the end.
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Two more bays to dry fit if it stops raining today (need to still cut brace mortises first). Then hopefully I can raise the lower portion of the frame next Sunday. Although there is a heap to do between now and then. Including;
- making 80 pegs
- measuring elevations of concrete slab and cutting posts to suit.
- cutting posts to accept the blade-style footing brackets
- finish planing / cleaning up all the posts and beams
- making wedges for the half dovetail mortises
- moving the remaining cubic meter of posts/beams to another location.
- drilling out the offset tenon peg holes in the tie beams.
- a bunch of other small and large stuff I can't remember right now or haven't even thought of yet haha.
Cheers, Dom
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23rd September 2018, 08:45 AM #66New Member
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Loving this project, looking great!
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23rd September 2018, 10:15 AM #67GOLD MEMBER
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23rd September 2018, 10:29 AM #68SENIOR MEMBER
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Great work!
Makes me envious. Can't say I love my folded metal shed.
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23rd September 2018, 02:56 PM #69
Dom
Don't lose faith. This project is amazing. These huge timbers are reminiscent of a time long gone. I love the tools you are using and the overall appearance. The only thing that concerns me is that this is not going to be your workshop. I suppose that is because the existing shed is larger.
Not to worry, this is still a really great build. Stay focused.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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23rd September 2018, 07:48 PM #70GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks Paul,
Yeah, this is just going to store a car, some gardening bits and pieces and will have some space to store timber (which I desperately need and what I'm most excited about).
Thanks for your kind words, a few things went a bit wrong recently and coupled with slow progress due to limited time on the weekends, I was feeling a bit flat (physically and emotionally!). Thanks to you too Pippin88. Amazing how a few words can make a big difference.
Cheers, Dom
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3rd October 2018, 09:58 AM #71New Member
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Hi Dom,
I've just read the thread. What a great project! It is fascinating following your progress and seeing your joinery come together. Great photos. Nice job. I am in the middle of a similar but slightly smaller project, also using macrocarpa posts & beams.
In addition to the books you mentioned by Steve Chappell and by Tedd Benson, two books I have found useful are Will Beemer's Learn To Timber Frame and Jack Sobon's Build a Classic Timber-Frame House. Both work with square-rule layout.
I see you are using a Lie-Nielsen bench rabbet plane. How is that working for you? Would you recommend it?
Regards,
Chris
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3rd October 2018, 03:52 PM #72GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks Chris. You should post a thread with some details of your project / progress.
Thanks for the book recommendations. I was looking at buying the Sobon book but by then I didn't want to find out what else I had done incorrectly haha.
The LN Rabbet plane is great. It has been really useful for paring down tenons and general duties. I'm also thinking it will be great for tuning breadboard ends in future furniture work...and it looks great too
Cheers, Dom
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4th October 2018, 10:13 AM #73GOLD MEMBER
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So life got in the way and things were delayed a little.
Got a quick / rough test fit of the components completed, but could only do it piece-meal on the tapered side so hopefully that comes together. I also haven't test fit the braces for the main bents so that is still a risk.
Tapered side test fit-
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I also started making pegs last night. I intended on going full traditional techniques on this but time pressure won out and I found straight grain boards (spotted gum for exposed pegs and Karri for internal), planed them to thickness, cut into strips, then into octagonals, then quickly tapered the tips with drawknife/axe.
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Also surveyed my concrete slab with a clear tube and food coloured water for the relative heights and cut the posts to suit. Then slotted the post bottoms to take the blade style brackets I intend to use - this was more painful then expected as my circular saw has a 2.5mm blade and the brackets are 3.2mm. 1 left to do.
The plan is to raise the first elements this Sunday morning. I need to finish the pegs, finish the post slotting and prep, drill some peg holes, remove the wood fence next to the garage, hand plane/clean up the timbers a little, make wedges for the wedged half dovetail tenons, mark the footing locations and dynabolt to concrete, and pre assemble the bents ready for raising on Sunday - plus there are always little bits and pieces that come up. Lots to do but hopefully i'll be ready come Sunday morning as I have organised a few friends to help out.
Cheers, Dom
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7th October 2018, 09:37 PM #74GOLD MEMBER
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Busy last 3 days. Update to follow but first bits are assembled and up. No major dramas!
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Time for some sleep. Have a few days off so will hit the next parts as hard as I can.
Cheers, Dom
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9th October 2018, 08:19 AM #75GOLD MEMBER
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Pegs are in, frame cleaned up ready to oil and straps removed. I haven't pegged the braces yet and won't do so until the frame has had time to season - in case i need to adjust /wedge any of them tight. At the moment the frame is rock solid. I can't budge it in any direction. Very happy.
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I'm a little unsure if I should oil the wood asap to minimise face checking in the sun, or wait to allow it to season more first. Moisture content is generally about 14-17% at 19mm deep (will be higher further in of course) so I think it's dry enough to take oil but not sure if there is a downside to oiling too early.
Cheers, Dom