Thread: Question about overlay hinges

From what you've said about the design there is no 'face frame'. It sounds like what you're proposing is very similar to the average kitchen cabinet and you're having a single panel as the middle divider? Your doors need to be the size of the openings plus the two end panels and the divider. If the two apertures in the cabinet are the same width the easiest way to do the doors is to make four the same size. You will need two lots of full overlay hinges (for the outside doors) and two sets of half overlay hinges (for the internal doors). Unless you're planning to use material of a width that is well outside the norm. you won't have any trouble adjusting the hinges to get the doors to sit at the side of the cabinets.

Originally Posted by aldav

From what you've said about the design there is no 'face frame'. It sounds like what you're proposing is very similar to the average kitchen cabinet and you're having a single panel as the middle divider? Your doors need to be the size of the openings plus the two end panels and the divider. If the two apertures in the cabinet are the same width the easiest way to do the doors is to make four the same size. You will need two lots of full overlay hinges (for the outside doors) and two sets of half overlay hinges (for the internal doors). Unless you're planning to use material of a width that is well outside the norm. you won't have any trouble adjusting the hinges to get the doors to sit at the side of the cabinets.

I'll preface this by saying I'm very new, learning as I go, unsure of some of the terminology!

Thanks for the reply. And yes it probably isn't a face frame. I'm basing my design off a cabinet I've seen on youtube, carcass will be similar to this:

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I've built the two end panels and working on the "stretchers" and centre divider this week. The thickness of the legs on the end panel is approx 60mm, and was going to make the middle divider the same thickness. So much thicker than standard 18mm carcass. If I wanted a say 15mm reveal on the two ends and between the two middle doors, I would: take the width of one gap plus 90mm (45 mm for each side, leaving a 15mm reveal) and then divide this figure in two for two doors. Do this for both gaps. How does that sound?

And based on that could I use full overlay for the internal doors seeing as planning to have a 15mm reveal?

(oh and the video is one of Bourbon Moth's, he uses inset doors but I'm planning on overlay)

Hmm the more I think about it, what I'm proposing won't work, will it?

Maybe I'm better going for inset doors?

It looks like you're building a frame and panel cabinet. Are the end frame pieces 60 x 60? To accommodate Euro style hinges you'll need around 50mm inside the cabinet to mount the backing plate for the hinges. With frame and panel construction it's more usual to use butt hinges or if you're using insert doors knife hinges are another possibility. There are other choices but it depends on the look you're trying to achieve. If you decide to overlay the doors you could use fully swaged butt hinges. Hopefully some other members with more experience in building this style of cabinet will be able to make some other suggestions as to the best approach.

Originally Posted by aldav

It looks like you're building a frame and panel cabinet. Are the end frame pieces 60 x 60? To accommodate Euro style hinges you'll need around 50mm inside the cabinet to mount the backing plate for the hinges. With frame and panel construction it's more usual to use butt hinges or if you're using insert doors knife hinges are another possibility. There are other choices but it depends on the look you're trying to achieve. If you decide to overlay the doors you could use fully swaged butt hinges. Hopefully some other members with more experience in building this style of cabinet will be able to make some other suggestions as to the best approach.

Yep the end frame pieces (legs) are 60x60.

I was trying to achieve concealed hinges but that may not be possible. I guess I could use some nice butt hinges and make them a feature.

Kinda learning as I go

Based on your picture, inset doors are the way to go I think. I installed some inset doors in a bathroom vanity using Blum concealed, soft-close hinges. They work great. Somewhere in their website they have a catalog or technical sheet that will tell you everything you need to know about their hinges and the required reveals for all the hinges they make. I couldn’t find it with my phone just now, but it is there - I used it last year. You need to account for door thickness and make sure you buy the correct hinge for the thickness of your doors.

Yep thank you. Inset is how I'm going to proceed. Should have the frame glued up this weekend I'll share some pics if anyone's interested