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    Default Sideboard-Entertainment Centre: Building the frame

    Friends, here is the next installment of my WIP. There are a couple of areas I could use some advice.

    http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furnitu...gtheframe.html

    Looking forward to all and any comments and suggestions.

    Regards from Perth

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    I'd think you'd be right to go with the hinges. As you wrote, it would provide support to the weight, they also look very nice too.
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    I agree with Waldo and those hinges also seem appropriate to the curved doors in the way that a side hinge would not
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    Having trouble picturing how you will install those hinges on the curved edge.
    Are they small enough to inset to both the door and frame?
    Doors look great by the way
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
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    These hinges are a favourite of some like Jim Krenov, mailnly because they are hidden. However they also have an advantage of supporting doors in a different manner to butt hinges, so the stresses on the frame are different. In this case, as you will see in the link, they avoid sheer stress.

    Installing Knife Hinges by David Knipfer

    (Just a link I found on internet).

    Another link is a mate of mine in the USA, who made this video ..

    Episode 21-1. My Krenov-inspired cabinet: Knife hinges Video

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    They look good Derek, they would definatly offer more suport than butt hinges and would also tie the frame together. Looking good.
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    Those hinges are tops - I've used them a lot except I make my own rather than fork out for the Brusso ones.

    I cut out the shapes in sheet brass and then solder in 3/8 " brass rod into one half. Then use a 3/8" reamer (the investment) on the other half to get a good fit - they work extremely well.

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    Excellent work Derek its a shame that one of the rails broke on you.
    Those hinges look like a good choice for the curved doors.
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    I missed this, but alas still have to say nice.

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    Tap........tap............tap, waiting Derek, any more progress yet?
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    Hi Derek,

    I agree with the earlier posts, I think the hinges would look great and suit the cabinet.

    Another great write-up,

    Cheers
    Pops

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    Very nice Derek, I like the idea of using a loose tenon. Either that or doweling was what I thought you'd come up with and the loose tenon seems elegant. I like the look of the hinge though I'm not sure about the engineering. There is something about the total weight of the door and the forces on it that bother me in relation to how they are going to be put through the hinge.

    My first thought would have been to go with a quality piano hinge. However, the main problem, as I see it, is that the whole of the door weight is going to be borne by the stiles and consequently put through the joints and cross grain of the rails. Given wood is strong in compression but weak in tension, I'd be angling my joinery such that the forces are mainly referred through the diagonals.

    Given this, if you can obtain a hinge similar to the one you propose except with longer and perhaps deeper "arms" such that they brace across the joint of stile to rail you might have more success.

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