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Thread: Somedays I should stay in bed.
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11th July 2011, 02:19 AM #1
Somedays I should stay in bed.
Last weekend I was looking forward to a little more time in the shop working on the two military chests I am building (for use an an entertainment centre). Well, I spent more time repairing mistakes than moving forward.
Where I had left off last time was this - two carcasses in Jarrah dovetailed together with centre divider. These are 900mm x 525mm each, and will make up a long, low cabinet 1810 in length.
I was looking forward to turning this pile of boards into supports for the drawers ...
The initial part of the WIP is on my website: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furnitu...entCentre.html
First I decided to plough the rebates for the back of the cabinets before turning to the mortice-and-tenoning. That is when I really should have gone back to bed.
I usually double- and sometimes treble-check everything. Not because I am a careful, but because I am prone to getting things back-to-front. Call me spatially-challenged.
Well, in spite of this I managed to play a rebate on the outside of the cabinet! Bugger. How did I do this? I suppose that the inside and the outside look the same ..
It was easily repaired by glueing in a matching piece. It will not be seen ...
Then blow me down, I did it again - this time getting the back and the front mixed up! Bugger again!
OK, so you think it doesn't get worse. But I was on a streak - it comes in threes, not so? Oh yes, I did it a third time!
Here you can see the repair being planed down, and the other side has the correct rebate ...
That was Saturday. Sunday was better. I completed all the supports for the drawers for one of the units - I decided to do them one at a time since they were not exactly the same (one side has two colums of three drawers, and the other has a column of drawers alongside a column of shelves).
Today I made the stopped dados, and glued together the shelves.
At the end of the day this is where the project stood (everything is just a dry fit) ...
The one carcass is done and ready to install the 6 drawers (I am looking forward to that time - I love building drawers).
The other carcass needs drawer supports and shelves, and both sides need stopped dados.
The inside of the area for the shelves has been scraped, and the repair looks decent. With finishing it will be difficult to detect.
Onto the next time.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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11th July 2011, 04:03 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Derek: With your skills, the mistake looks like a bit of quite subtle ornamental edge trim. If you say nothing, it will go unquestioned. You planned that, correct?????
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11th July 2011, 08:08 PM #3Skwair2rownd
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I know how you feel Derek!! I had a similar experience with some fencing work a week or so ago!!
Absolute PITA. When I finished I saw exactly the product that would have made the job a snap!.. Ah well.
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11th July 2011, 11:39 PM #4
Don't ya just hate when that happens, and I thought I was bad for doing that sort of thing, there must be something happens in the head where we go...righto, next step...cut two left and cut two right, but then that "something" happens and after cutting the pieces and after looking at them I've cut 4 lefts What happened there? now I need to cut 4 rights and so it goes on.....
Pete
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14th July 2011, 08:26 AM #5
what a royal pita
but good recovery
did similiar the other day
cut all the backs and fronts to some drawers (5) for a 500 mm wide cabinet where the carcus was 600 mm. I'm sure you could hear the language in the next postcode.regards
Nick
veni, vidi, tornavi
Without wood it's just ...
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14th July 2011, 09:34 AM #6
Well, Derek, it's comforting (sort of!) to see very competent people make silly mistakes, too. I think there's something in the air, at the moment, because I have been doing more than my usual quota of dumb things of late, myself. These include cutting on the wrong side of scribe lines, cutting out the pins instead of the waste on a set of through dovetails (no, I have no idea what I was thinking - I had even marked the waste, which I rarely bother to do!) & cutting bottom grooves on the wrong side of two pairs of drawer sides. At least when you plough grooves by hand, you only stuff em up one at a time!
And let's not get into clumsiness - I dropped the door, AND a drawer, on this piece:
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f187/c...e-unit-137998/
The door received some minor bruising on a corner, which was almost completely removed by wetting the squashed fibres, but the drawer needed about a mm planed off the face because a corner chipped. Bad enough to have accidents or stuff-ups during making, but a real pest when the pieces are finished & ready to go, as these were.
I've found the best way to handle these sorts of issues is to close the shed & take the dogs for a long walk while I ponder how to fix it....
Cheers,IW
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14th July 2011, 11:20 AM #7
Double post?
Last edited by Scribbly Gum; 14th July 2011 at 02:09 PM. Reason: Computer glitch - double post
.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
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14th July 2011, 02:08 PM #8
There is an old saying:
..the difference between an amateur and a professional boils down to how well they hide their mistakes.
An excellent recovery Derek.
I am encouraged that even the best have days like I have.
Thanks for sharing - it is appreciated.
Cheers from Tele Point
SG
PS:
I was hand cutting some dovetails for the sides of a serving tray back before mothers day. I was working on the ends and had cut the pins on all four edges. I then cut the tails on one end of one side - perfect fit. I then cut the tails on the end of the other side and it was also a perfect fit. The only problem was that instead of forming three sides of a rectangular tray, I had three pieces assembled in the shape of an "S".
I just stood there and laughed at myself.
Should have taken a photo I suppose..... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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14th July 2011, 05:11 PM #9Visit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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14th July 2011, 05:17 PM #10The door received some minor bruising on a corner, which was almost completely removed by wetting the squashed fibres, but the drawer needed about a mm planed off the face because a corner chipped. Bad enough to have accidents or stuff-ups during making, but a real pest when the pieces are finished & ready to go, as these were.
The edge of the one side dropped on the floor and dented ... flattened ... the corner. It would be seen as a rounded corner if left as was. I had to plane the corner off and glue in a fillet, then plane to original shape.
The Jarrah is hard and brittle. Moving the dovetails in-and-out caused two to chip at the leading edge. Again I had to chisel out and replace wood. No one will know. I just consider these run-of-the-mill repairs ... expect them ...
By-the-way, that is a stunning cabinet!!
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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14th July 2011, 06:27 PM #11PS:
I was hand cutting some dovetails for the sides of a serving tray back before mothers day. I was working on the ends and had cut the pins on all four edges. I then cut the tails on one end of one side - perfect fit. I then cut the tails on the end of the other side and it was also a perfect fit. The only problem was that instead of forming three sides of a rectangular tray, I had three pieces assembled in the shape of an "S".
I just stood there and laughed at myself.
Should have taken a photo I suppose.
This chest of drawers was built several years ago for my son. Spot the mistake ...
Here's another view ..
It was one of the first larger pieces I built only with handtools:
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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14th July 2011, 06:49 PM #12
The only 'mistake' I can see is that the pins & tails look like they are reversed, but who knows? You could easily have decided to do them that way for fun & as a future talking-point.
But I would probably have cut those pith lines out of the side wood, or at least turned them round so they were out of sight, inside.......
Cheers,IW
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14th July 2011, 07:07 PM #13
I'm like Ian - I can't see too much to complain about.
Third drawer down looks like it might have turned into through dovetails at some point.
Of course if you set out to make a serving tray, then you have got real problems.
I re-told my dovetails experience at the Woodworkers Guild and there was much mirth at my expense.
Cheers
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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15th July 2011, 03:03 AM #14
The tails and pins are reversed. This makes for a weak joint ... in theory. However I built this chest of drawers about 7 years ago and it has easily stood up to my son's rough handling. Still going strong and not showing any signs of wear or weakness.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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15th July 2011, 04:48 AM #15
Ha ha yer bloody big wally!
Yep we all suffer from it....................................................................
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