Thread: Hercus User Names

Originally Posted by aljunk

Derek are you anywhere near Townsville? Northern aus I think? My sister is visiting friends there for the next couple weeks.......

al

Hi Al,I live in Croydon Victoria so only about a few thousand Miles away How long is your sister staying in Townsville for as I ahve not bought the lathe as I have 2 people only wanting parts

And being disabled money is hard to come by as My Disability is the wires and a gizmo they fitted inside me to relieve pain and the wires run up my spine

So if you hurt yourself it is all in your brain as that is were the wire go to disguise the pain

Dave at Newmac had a brand new Pulley guard and if you sister is staying for a few days I can find out how much for the new cover and postage plus a 56Tooth gear

all the best Derek
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Originally Posted by brittleheart

As promised, photos of hercus 9" model VB, No BS30.
Note the different colour of the H pattern drive and guarding.
Wear on the headstock guards indicate belt drive previously from rear.
Felt wiper holders are brass.
The countershaft drive bearings are my design from only the last century (not the previous century as hercus has used).
Regards, Peter

On looking at the setup it is exactly how South Bend had their lathes as they did both Horizontal and vertical mount but is a fine old girl and looking at it closer it looks quite similiar to the Green Tassie Devil 1941 build

all the best Derek

Derek, too bad it's so far away. They are going to be there till 21st but will be traveling around so it's hard to contact them to organize things. So prolly this won't work out.

al


I just got an email from them in Townsville and replied with a request if she will be able to bring back a few parts so we'll see. I'm hoping I can get the gear at least as the Southbend gears are apparently a bit different tooth profile 14 1/2 deg PA vs 20 deg.

heres a couple pics of the gears,

Looks like we could make this happen Derek. See my private message for details.

al

Originally Posted by bitza500

34.Surfin Nev. Hercus Horizontal and Vertical Mill

Welcome to the Forum Nev you and Rod are 84 machines apart he is 362 and you 288
I hope we get more hercus people coming into the Forum as OLD Fred made a lot of stuff so see if you can dig up a few more lathe or Mill owners does not Matter if the lathe is not a 9" as any Hercus or in Fact South Bend Owners please email me as OLD Fred only cloned the South bend as well as 20+ other Countries

all the best Derek

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More members to add

Originally Posted by bitza500

As replies are slow regarding the Register I will put everyone's UserName ONLY and that way if you want me to do the Regisiter properly please let me know as I do not want to Offend and UserNames are on the Forum anyway
1.bitza500
2. Neksmerji
3Pipeclay
4.Footz
5.Katz
6.Yeti
7.Mob
8.Pete F
9.Beetle
10.Brett C
11.Buncha
12Damian
13.Wannabe
14.Fraserbluff
15Fraserbluff
16.Brittleheart
17.Jomac6
18.Making Stuff
19.Ralphie
20Gregoryq ( now been stripped)
21.Knotaclue
22.Drummond
23.12Teethperinch
24John Budden 60
25.Blankfrancis
26.Penpal
27.Steran 50

And so there is (USER NAME ONLY) anybody wanting to add anything or just Regisiter as you have 27 MAD Hercus Lovers who have plenty of experience if you need Help

all the best Derek bitza500

And now please welcome some new Hercus Owners

28.Aljunk
29.Speedy
30.Anarok Bob
31.Anarak Bob (MILL)
32. Rod
33. Rod (MILL)
34. Surfin Nev
35.Brittleheart
36. Aljunk
37.Qwerty

Well we are getting there as 37 Members was beter than half a dozen when I started up the Register courtesy of the big fella upstairs who gave me a chance to bring all the Hercus Owners together
So pleas if you know of any other Hercus Owners please let them now about our Hercus Forum

all the best Derek

Originally Posted by bitza500

And now please welcome some new Hercus Owners

28.Aljunk
29.Speedy
30.Anarok Bob
31.Anarak Bob (MILL)
32. Rod
33. Rod (MILL)
34. Surfin Nev
35.Brittleheart
36. Aljunk
37.Qwerty
38.allterrain50
Well we are getting there as 38 Members was beter than half a dozen when I started up the Register courtesy of the big fella upstairs who gave me a chance to bring all the Hercus Owners together
So pleas if you know of any other Hercus Owners please let them now about our Hercus Forum

all the best Derek

Welcome member Number 38 Have you any Pics you can show us your lathe Mal???
all the best Derek

Originally Posted by brittleheart

As promised, photos of hercus 9" model VB, No BS30.
Note the different colour of the H pattern drive and guarding.
Wear on the headstock guards indicate belt drive previously from rear.
Felt wiper holders are brass.
The countershaft drive bearings are my design from only the last century (not the previous century as hercus has used).
Regards, Peter

Hi Peter, did you make the Countershaft bearings from scratch or just machined the old ones to make it look nice as mine when made in 1954? the locating holes for the bolts,one of them has been cast wrong or machined wrong as the adjusting bolt sits askew ? and I cannot get the shaft to run freely as it had a bent shaft holes drilled in the shaft in many places to lock the pulleys ?? and yet it has the machined flats but the old owner thought drilling might be better ??? I would be curious to know as I am thinking of doing the same as I can see this being a problem as I used Holden Spigot bushes and machined and line bored but still to no great satisfaction

If you did make from new can you tell me how you did it and a rough sketch as as your idea looks great I was not sure of making from new as I was a bit stumped on how to make the locating recesses exactly 180 degrees from each other

Hope you can advise ???

all the best Derek

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

Happy New Year Derek,

I will go out to the shed and see if the larger dials on my AR fit onto the earlier A. There is a good chance that the AR dials are the same as the 260 dials and it could just be that they are still available from FW Hercus.

Making a pair shouldn't be too hard but you would require a dividing head to accurately engrave (or gouge) the divisions.

Bob.

Hi Bob, well I went to my usual Haunt Newmac (NO I have no affiliation at all) but they have plent of my money

Anyway at New Mac they had BRAND NEW large dials so I very quicky snapped them up as YOU said they are the same as the 260

As I am a regular now at Newmac Richard the Owner lets me go scrounging through his pile of bits and he has boxes of taps,drills reamers,Milling cutters cutting tools of all brands just sitting in boxes

I found the drive rail for the apron to run on so another part to bolt to my spare parts lathe I am slowly building I also got a Model C Screw and both ends as well

So Now I am chasing a headstock as Newmac wanted $250 which is quite cheap for a tapered bearing headstock but I am chasing the older style

And how goes the dismantling of the house paint Hercus as would love to see and hear how it is going

all the best and thank you Derek bitza500

Hi Derek,
I made the bearings from scratch.
This what I did:
1. Replaced the shaft with a length of 3/4" linear bearing grade material.
2. Ground out the areas on the shaft to make flats for grub screw fixing.
3. Turned up two bearing housings from a scrap SS round. Bored a 20mm hole through, and machined out a recess to fit a needle bearing each end. Finally milled a flat on each side.
4. Drilled and C/S to each housing at centre to sit lower bolt.
5. Instead of drilling at the top, if a short "V" is machined, the bearing is able to self centre.
6. Drilled a small hole in each housing for oiling.
7. Machined a thick washer of bronze to seal bearings to one side of each housing.
8. Machined a thicker washer of bronze, and tapped two M6 grub screws to position each housing and seal other side of housing.

I didn't draw this up, but sketched it out on a scrap of paper as I made it, which is now lost.
However I can take measurements and post if anyone is interested.
Regards,
Peter.
PS It really makes a difference and I believe worth the trouble.

Originally Posted by brittleheart

Hi Derek,
I made the bearings from scratch.
This what I did:
1. Replaced the shaft with a length of 3/4" linear bearing grade material.
2. Ground out the areas on the shaft to make flats for grub screw fixing.
3. Turned up two bearing housings from a scrap SS round. Bored a 20mm hole through, and machined out a recess to fit a needle bearing each end. Finally milled a flat on each side.
4. Drilled and C/S to each housing at centre to sit lower bolt.
5. Instead of drilling at the top, if a short "V" is machined, the bearing is able to self centre.
6. Drilled a small hole in each housing for oiling.
7. Machined a thick washer of bronze to seal bearings to one side of each housing.
8. Machined a thicker washer of bronze, and tapped two M6 grub screws to position each housing and seal other side of housing.

I didn't draw this up, but sketched it out on a scrap of paper as I made it, which is now lost.
However I can take measurements and post if anyone is interested.
Regards,
Peter.
PS It really makes a difference and I believe worth the trouble.

Hi Pete, if you cpould do a rough sketch and dimensions would be great as I will definatley be doing that
Also can you remember what the Part Number is for the Needle roller bearings ??
As I think making new housings is the only way I will ever get the shaft to move freely

all the best Derek
P/S what happened to your old Housings ?????as I am chasing a set for another lathe in Progress

Sure can Derek.
I will take measurements of the made ones.
The shafting was from BSC made by Linear Bearings. I tried to get 5/8" for replacing the worn shafts in apron, but there isn't any in the country at the moment. For some reason I tend to give my suppliers a real pain to find what I want. I know one guy that hides under the desk when I walk in door! I reckon they they need the occasional challenge to break up their daily boordom.
You can have the old housings.
Have Newmac still got the large dials? Were they expensive?
Regards,
Peter

The details as promised.
Note:
The replacement shaft runs directly on the needle bearings, this requires material with hardness of 62Rc min. Using shafting designed for linear bearings is available.
The bearings (B-128) are drawn a cup type. The bearing recess should be machined to a close tolerance, allowing just enough clearance to lightly tap bearing in. A suitable drift is required to be machined to neatly fit.
The upper yoke bolts position the housings, while the lower bolts hold the housings laterally within the "V" groove. This allows for correct alignment of bearings.
The purpose of the brass washers is to seal the bearings from dirt. The inner washers are closed and fixed against the housings when the shaft has been adjusted into position.
The "V" grooves can either be milled or just carefully ground on bench grinder.
Happy to answer any other questions
Regards,
Peter

Originally Posted by bitza500

Welcome member Number 38 Have you any Pics you can show us your lathe Mal???
all the best Derek

Please welcome 3 new members
39.allterrain50
40.Old Fraggle
41.Nickeng