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  1. #1
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    Default Scroll saws a few queries

    I have been toying about purchasing a scroll saw. I initially considered a 16 inch one but realised that the chance that projects will grow it would be smarter to look at least an 18 inch one.

    Before everyone cries EX12 repeatedly or make reference to the Trupro 18" both at Jim Carroll's place, sorry that will hurt hip pocket nerve too much not to mention the negative reaction from SWMBO.

    The options I seem to have are the following:

    1. Hare & Forbes B-18V Scroll Saw 18" $253.00
    2. Timbecon 18" Scroll Saw - SS-18-E $352.00
    3. Carba-Tec Carba-Tec 18" Scroll Saw $599.00
    4. Leadacraft MS-24 HEAVY DUTY SCROLL SAW $484.00

    All have variable speeds and the overall range is similar though out. The Ledacraft model only has 2 speeds, 710 and 1420 rpm.
    Is it significantly important to have fully variable speed vs. the 2 speed only option?

    By the time I add transport costs the H&F machine will be closer to $300 and the Timbecon one closer to $450. So they all come a bit 'closer' re cost

    I have done a bit of searching about here and as usual some names occasionally come up the wrong way, (trying to be diplomatic here). So advice is appreciated.

    Hence I have a slight leaning to the Ledacraft but I also have reservations with respect to the limited speed options with their saw. I have had a bit of gear from them and never had a problem. Hence my slight bias.

    Any suggestions and which/what I should consider and look for with a scroll saw?

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    Re: The Ledacraft 2 speed saw .. I had the WMS (Trupro) 2 speed saw and found it to be fine with the work I did. I now have the variable speed WMS and find most of the time I had it set around 6 - 7 anyway. So depending on the sort of projects you are going to do, the 2 speed should do fine.
    However I do like the variable speed to allow for a little tweeking in speed, but thats just my preference.
    Brett

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    Hi,
    I started with a Timbecon 16ins - wanted to test the water, so to speak. It did the job but not like the WMS (Hegner lookalike, such as the other two Hegner lookalikes) I have had for over four years now. Much like other things you get what you pay for.
    If it helps this is what I'd look for (and I'm not sure in which order they should be)
    Ease of blade fitting and clamping (the Timbecon was a terror).
    Motor noise that is easy on the ears.
    Vibration at a minimum.
    Good and efficient blower (this might be an essential for me - the Timbecon one didn't have a decent one and I was forever blowing off the dust).
    A decent method of keeping the tension on the blade when having to frequently clamp and unclamp.
    And I like the variable speed even though I rarely move off 1000.

    Hope it helps,
    Bob H.
    p.s. The Timbecon will do what the WMS does, in the end.
    p.s.s. Of course you know about Helen Harris (for blades).

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    Bob H and oges,
    Thanks for the comments.

    Unless I am wrong a 'Hegner lookalike' points to Carroll's Trupro 18" variable speed, or the CT 18". WMS only seem to have 16" saws on their web.

    It also sounds that having variable speed, though nice, it sounds that you might spend most time on one speed anyway.

    The Leadacraft is a concern as the low speed is higher than most low settings, 710 rpm vs 500 on most others brands. I thought this might be a bit too high for some situations, though what I am not too sure about.

    The CWS Trupro is out side my price range and the CT one just makes the grade.

    I suppose one decider is going to be dealer support as well. Due to some reporting about the various forums here some brands tend to scare me off.

    Well looks like I will have to gently prod the Minister of Finances and see what i can arrive at.

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    HI,
    I had a couple of 'senior' moments with my post, I aught to have made it clear that for the top blade clamp I go for 'toolless' i.e. no allen key/clock key.
    Also perhaps I should have mentioned that, for me, pinless blade clamps are essential.
    A bit late but hopefully better that than not.
    Good luck.
    Bob H.

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    how about the DELTA Units , have 1 at the Caboolture club , and when it is running there is no vibration or noise.Also tool less blade change..

    I have an earlier model and I get vibration and do not have tool less blade change.

    I have visited a couple of woodturning clubs and at both DELTA were the preferred machines..

    Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by vk4 View Post
    .. how about the DELTA Units ..
    They dont sell new Delta's anymore
    Brett

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    Thanks for the various suggestions and help.
    Unfortunately my financial controller has passed on and I seem at present to have lost any inkling to do anything at present.

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    Very sorry to hear that, my condolences
    Brett

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    Quote Originally Posted by cultana View Post
    Thanks for the various suggestions and help.
    Unfortunately my financial controller has passed on and I seem at present to have lost any inkling to do anything at present.
    I'm really sorry to read of your loss. My wife recently died, and I know what you mean about loosing all motivation to do anything. I hope you have family and friends to give you comfort in the hard months ahead.

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