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17th March 2009, 06:29 AM #1
How sticky can you get
Hi everybody I'm new to the scroll saw scene I've thrown a couple of bits of wood together any way a little or maybe stupid question. How do all you scrollers fix your patterns to the wood and stop them coming off at the same time does the pattern come off cleanly when you have finished
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17th March 2009, 10:12 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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I just use spray adhesive. The can I have says that for permanent fixing spray both sides, and for temporary, spray one surface and let it dry before joining. I use the temporary method. Most of it peels off fine afterwards, with maybe a little adhesive left behind in some places. The finer pieces of pattern usually get left behind too. Then I just sand it off.
PeterThe other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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17th March 2009, 03:13 PM #3
If you cover your wood with blue painters tape you can then spray your pattern with permanant adhesive and it will stay there for 2 or 3 weeks if you want it to with out it peeling off. Then when you have finished just peel off the blue tape carefully. I use this method all the time and I have never had a problem but when I used temporary bond the pattern would peel off before I had finished. Hope this helps you.
Marg
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17th March 2009, 08:43 PM #4Intermediate Member
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Post it glue sticks, applied to the paper works well.
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18th March 2009, 12:29 AM #5
The painters' tape sounds like a Godsend. Removal of the spray adhesive can be easy or difficult, and hard to predict most of the time; occasionally I've resorted to naphtha to release it - not good for the finish. Post-It glue is essentially wax, and could shift by heat generated while cutting. For any of these, I usually scribe a line to create a "stopping cut" in case the pattern shifts, so who cares?.
Cheers,
JoeOf course truth is stranger than fiction.
Fiction has to make sense. - Mark Twain
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18th March 2009, 02:26 AM #6
Thanks everybody will try the tape idea and see how I get on
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18th March 2009, 10:22 PM #7
I use cheap masking tape and glue stick..... found the blue tape a bit too expensive and also had trouble when cutting light colour wood ... I had streaks of blue on the cuts!
Masking tape works good..... then I use a good glue stick.. the cheap ones have a tendency to let go of the pattern at the wrong moment.
Also... I try to take the tape off as quick as possible... if left on too long it can become hard to remove.
One of our guys just uses glue stick alone . he says it comes right off when you moisten the paper a bit.... I tried that.. yes... it does come right off, but I find it leaves a bit of a glue"slick"...
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19th March 2009, 02:21 AM #8Intermediate Member
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Painers tape and spray glue
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19th March 2009, 06:40 AM #9
As I said earlier I would try the tape idea. Well all I had in the workshop was masking tape and pva glue. So taped the ply (just handy and had plenty of) and stuck the pattern down with watered down pva glue. Yes it worked a treat and none on the ply. So here is the first attempt at using the scroll saw
Attachment 99663
Think I might turn it into a key hanger
Found the pattern on a web site can't remember which one but it was a free download
Thank you all for the ideasLast edited by Dalboy; 19th March 2009 at 06:41 AM. Reason: forgot something
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19th March 2009, 07:08 AM #10Noel
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Spray adhesive. And white spirits to remove the pattern when done.
Noel
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19th March 2009, 09:09 AM #11
that's a very good first cut! You must be a natural.
Did you have any problem with the blue colour pulling into the wood? Maybe it only happened because the tape I had tried it was was from a yardsale ( 50c a roll... couldn't turn that down) but I only use regular masking tape now.
I don't ever use the spray glue anymore... I find it too messy ( have it all over the washer where I used to spary it! lol) , too expensive and bad for lungs and environment.
Also didn't help that I accidently grabbed it once when wanted to put a spray finish on a piece!!!!! That really turned me against spray glue! lol
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19th March 2009, 09:56 AM #12
Keju
Didn't use any blue tape the masking tape we have in good old Blighty is white. It came off the wood a treat and the Carpenters glue (PVA) didn't soak through so no marks on the wood so will try the same next time
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25th March 2009, 02:03 PM #13
I have used the blue painters tape for about 2 years now and I only buy the cheapest tape that Bunnings sell and I have never had a problem with it. When I have pulled the tape off the wood I have been working on I just lightly hand sand it with the finest of sand papers, finish is as smooth as a baby's bum. And the back if its going in a frame I sand carefully with a hand sander. No problems
Marg
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25th March 2009, 02:33 PM #14
Never had problems pulling the blue tape off either... but like I said ... specially when I used pine the colour pulled right into the cut and left blueish streaks that were hard to sand off.
Might just have been the brand ..... but I'm not game to try it again.
Maybe it was because the piece I used was 3/4" thick and the streaks were more visible? Maybe they don't show up on something thinner?
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25th March 2009, 03:12 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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Diggerdelaney, that looks very well. Are your sure you are not a re-incarnated scroller, been here before?
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