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Thread: Teeth I payed for but never used
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1st September 2008, 07:32 PM #1
Teeth I payed for but never used
Hello,
I use an electric Scroll Saw.
I have this silly question about how come approx. 2/3 of the teeth on every saw blade are actualy unused in sawing. Seems kind of a loss.
Or does it?
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fEZ.
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1st September 2008, 08:08 PM #2
do some saws have more travel?
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1st September 2008, 09:15 PM #3
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1st September 2008, 09:53 PM #4
Can't you raise or lower the table to use teeth near the ends of the blade?
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1st September 2008, 10:40 PM #5
It is because the blades can be used to cut materials up to about one inch thick, and not only that, they can used manually in coping saw and jewellers type saws as well.
Let's face it, who among us would buy a blade with just one inch of teeth in it?Buzza.
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1st September 2008, 10:41 PM #6
Hi pugwash,
My machine doesn't seem to have either options.
But instead of raising the table I could insert something more or less thick between my piece and the table. That would solve the raising problem. Still the lower third of the blade would remain unused.
Anybody has tried this before?
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1st September 2008, 10:48 PM #7
Hi Buzza,
Well that answers the question why there are teeth along the whole blade length. Quiet well actually.
The concern was about finding a way to use most of of them on an electric scroll saw.
I'll have to find something that works as raiser.
Best Wishes,
fEZ.
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2nd September 2008, 05:29 PM #8Senior Member
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The teeth have to stop and start somewhere. Every make and modell of scroll saw is set up in a diferent way. The blade makers couldn't posobly make blades to suit all saws so all teeth could be used.
You might even consider that when using a hand saw the teeth at each end of the saw are not used.
By placing a false bottom on the table of the saw it is possible to raise the working height to use extra teeth and get more out of your blades. I used to do this with my last saw but with my new one I just havn't been bothered mainly because blades are so cheap.
Red Gum
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2nd September 2008, 07:54 PM #9
Thanks Red Gum,
There's more than one good point in your answer.
Blades are cheap I couldn't agree more, but I still need them to be shipped out, all the way to where I am ...
Best Wishes,
fEZ.
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2nd September 2008, 10:31 PM #10
I had the opportunity to try out Red Gum's table topper and it worked very well.
Only when you have thicker material it made it a bit awkward to thread the blade through the holes because there was less clearance.
I also found the extra teeth good when I break a blade... most of the time I can reinsert it , lower the top arm of the saw and scroll away. Funny thing is that a lot of the time the blade seems to last longer once I broke it! lol
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2nd September 2008, 11:11 PM #11
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2nd September 2008, 11:34 PM #12
Try this.
Well, I don't suppose you really need an answer to WHY they go unused, but I have a way to get around to using more of the blade.
How about once a blade gets dull, we add a sheet of 3/4 ply wood over the top of our scrolling table. That way we will now be using a higher portion of the blade which untill now has gone unused. I suppose that we would need to make sure we still have enough clearance between the top of the saw arm that bobs up and down and our knuckles as we feed the stock around. If your hands ended up too high and that arm came down on top of them I bet it would hurt.
I suppose that metal fatigue that comes over time from using more of the blade might make it more prone to breakage too.
Think this one through before trying...
Then let me know how it works out.“When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think...that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ --John Ruskin. Audels Carpenters and Builders Guide, 1923 Theo Audel & CO. New York.
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3rd September 2008, 02:53 AM #13
Hi labolle,
I have been using an extra thickness of 3/4 plywood as you said.
I beleive that apart from piece thickness new limitation and clearance constraint, the new thing is that the closer to the arm the blade cuts, the less likely it is to accept torsion (when cutting along small radius curves).
That forces to using more power to turn the piece, which raises friction and ends up burning the wood. I suppose that a minimum of 5" blade length have its importance in contour turning.
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