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15th April 2011, 06:12 PM #1
Adhesive for glass to particle board.
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15th April 2011, 06:47 PM #2
Hey Michael,
If I was gluing I would use Silicon, preferably SIKAFLEX, as we use it in the Boat Yard here, and that stuff will stick anything,
But I would probably cut some hardwood edging and glue and screw that around the edges (Picture Frame Style) so that If the Chipboard ever got wet it wouldn't go al wobbly and maybe break the Glass. then maybe a bead of silicon around the edges to stop any water or oil getting to the chipboard.
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15th April 2011, 06:53 PM #3
Thanks, yes sikaflex is good stuff. Used it when I owned a boat. found it went off in the tube pretty quickly though once opened.
I did think of garden variety Silastic but I did not have any and the glue gun was handy soooo,,,,,.
I could however follow your suggestion and edge with a bit of timber and seal with silastic although it's safe in a shed weatherwise but I guess if I'm useing any water on the glass I could run into trouble.
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15th April 2011, 08:25 PM #4
G'Day Michael,
While "SIKAFLEX" is a good brand, it's top shelf and thus expensive.
I'm reasonable sure you could use any "natural cure" clear silicon to stick the glass to the chipboard.
Cheers, Crowie
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16th April 2011, 03:06 PM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Sika make a wide variety of sealant products. Most are not silicone, but polyurethane - including all the Sikaflex range. (SikaSil is silicone). The polyurethane will probably work better than silicone & is widely used in the auto trade for windscreen sealing & adhesion. Silaflex also used in high-rise facades like glass where adhesion performance & safety are paramount.
All in all a Sikaflex is good choice. Bunnings sell SikaFlex at reasonable price - I think 11C at about $12 for a caulking gun tube.
Silicones are not really a good long term sealant if you don't have mechanical compression (e.g sandwhiched between two surfaces - it works best as like a gasket with rivets or bolts etc to compress it) - the adhesive quality is only temporary. However silicone is considered more durable than polyurethane. Polyurethane makes a pretty permanent bond. However it will have difficulty sticking some plastics such as polyethelenes.
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16th April 2011, 03:21 PM #6Senior Member
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Me...I wouldn't bother sticking it down, on my setup the 10mm glass just sits on a piece of non slip mat.
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18th April 2011, 12:26 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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I did the same as John M = wrapped masking tape around the edge, white card for a backing to see what I'm doing. In my case, I use the plate glass as a palette for acrylic paints.
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18th April 2011, 07:44 PM #8
Thanks for the replies. The other reason I set it on a bit of baord was to make it easier to pick up and hold onto.
The piece of glass I have is 8mm.
I also picked up a granite chopping board from ALDI's for a good price. It's pretty flat but not as flat as the plate glass.
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3rd May 2011, 10:08 PM #9
Update: The hot glue job did not last, since my post the glass has come loose off the board. Took no effort to remove it completly.
So experimenting now I've re-attached using liquid nails 'high strength, construction adhesive'. We'll see how that goes.
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4th May 2011, 10:11 AM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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From experience, you will find that the construction adhesive will dry over time & let go. The glass also needs to be very clean before you start - wipe it down with Acetone to get all traces of dirt, moisture & oils off it.
If you want a permanent bond, you should use SikaFlex & Sika primer on the glass (Sika Aktivator)
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12th June 2011, 11:47 PM #11
If you are making a surface plate and you want it flat....you do not want any adhesive that is viscous.
because as you press it down the glass WILL flex and distort.
In my opinion the best option would be marine epoxy with only a small amount of filler added.
spread it out on both surfaces ( you will have scrubbed the glass with thinnner and let it dry first) the present them together and make a rubbed joint.....the excess epoxy will run out and glass will remain flatt.
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yep lots of people do not grasp the difference between polyeurathane and silicon.
just because it is a sealer in a tube don't make it silicon...thank god.
cheersAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.
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13th June 2011, 12:12 AM #12
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13th June 2011, 12:45 AM #13
Damn straight.
Glass is nowhere near as rigid as some people believe it to be.
If you are being that fussy about a surface plate, ya want it to remain flat.
BTW...if it is 8mm why are you gluing it down to a piece of crappy MDF.......if you use water on the plate the MDF will not be happy.
cheersAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.
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13th June 2011, 03:31 PM #14
A couple of reasons.
MDF seems to generally be pretty flat to start with and I'm currently useing W&D paper but the 'wet' is Kerosene not water, the paper seems to last longer that way.
I've edged the MDF with hardwood and put a thin bead of silastic around the edge so should be reasonably sound.
It was a little try project, if it does not last next time I'll build a better moustrap as it were.
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13th June 2011, 07:27 PM #15
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