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    Hi All,

    I need some advice.

    I recently completed a toy cart for my Grandson out of Meranti, and oiled it with Orange Oil.

    Now the parents, want to attach an aluminium nameplate to the toy cart. As an easy option, I was thinking of glueing the nameplate direct to the timber, but am concerned with the Orange Oil finish rejecting any glue that I use.

    The only glues that I currently have are Titebond 3 and Gorilla Grip foaming glue.

    Any suggestions welcomed.

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    Four screws?? No rejection or dry time.


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    Always wary of using small parts like screws, when dealing with toddlers, hence the glue approach.

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    Might be difficult to have the glue adhere to the orange oil finish.
    Maybe send an email or ring the "tech help line" for the orange oil manufacture asking the question about glues which would adhere??
    Saying that I'd try an epoxy glue?
    On the other hand adding the screws would be okay for the toddler as I'd glue them in place...
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    Rang Gilly Stephenson's (Manufacturer of the Orange Oil), and basically no glue will stick to the oil.

    So back to square one. When all else fails, it could be an option to make another toy cart.

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    +1 to epoxy, but i suggest not sticking it directly onto the item, rather create a small recess and glue the nameplate flush with the toy.

    Alternatively as Crowie says, screws and epoxy the screws in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cava View Post
    Always wary of using small parts like screws, when dealing with toddlers, hence the glue approach.
    no adult, let alone a toddler is going to be able to undo a properly inserted and tightened screw without a proper screw driver. And that is before you put a drop of super glue in the screw hole.

    but if really worried -- excavate a couple of mm behind the name plate. Make up a batch of thickened epoxy -- you will be gluing metal to raw wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cava View Post
    So back to square one. When all else fails, it could be an option to make another toy cart.
    suggest not.

    much better for grandpa to be seen to personalise the existing cart by either
    carving grandson's name into the cart -- it's much easier than it sounds
    or attach the engraved name plaque.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    -- excavate a couple of mm behind the name plate. Make up a batch of thickened epoxy -- you will be gluing metal to raw wood.
    I think that this will be the best option (read easiest).

    Thanks Ian.

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    I'd go the 'excavation' method.
    If you have a round name plate made, you can use a Forstner bit to make a shallow excavation the right diameter, and get the plate flush with the surface.
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    Hadn't thought of a forstner bit as the name plate is >200 mm long x circa 50 mm wide (don't have it with me to measure at the moment) and was considering a router with a template.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cava View Post
    Hadn't thought of a forstner bit as the name plate is >200 mm long x circa 50 mm wide (don't have it with me to measure at the moment) and was considering a router with a template.
    properly (selected and) mixed epoxy is incredibly strong -- as a work colleague once observed "it sticks like the proverbial" -- so all you really need to execute the shallow excavation is a 35 or 40 mm diameter Forstner excavation along the center line of the plaque. Because the hole is only a few mm deep and doesn't need to be completely uniform, I'd use the bit in a battery drill.

    Epoxy wise, because of other projects, of late I've been buying it in 1 litre or larger containers and adding wood flour as a thickening agent (when needed) so can't really advise in respect to what you will find in the Green Shed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cava View Post
    hi all,

    i recently completed a toy cart for my grandson out of meranti, and oiled it with orange oil.

    Now the parents, want to attach an aluminium nameplate to the toy cart. As an easy option, i was thinking of glueing the nameplate direct to the timber,
    pictures wanted
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by cava View Post
    Rang Gilly Stephenson's (Manufacturer of the Orange Oil), and basically no glue will stick to the oil.

    So back to square one. When all else fails, it could be an option to make another toy cart.
    It might be a bit of careful cutting but would suggest inlaying the plate. Once you have cut the inlay you should have oil free surface to take the glue


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    Quote Originally Posted by silverback088 View Post
    It might be a bit of careful cutting but would suggest inlaying the plate. Once you have cut the inlay you should have oil free surface to take the glue
    I did something similar applying some painted stars to the surface of a baby changing table that I made. The baby was due, so I didn't have time to let the paint on the changing table cure and was afraid that the recently applied paint would be pulled up by the stars. I traced the stars with a pencil and then used a dremel with a fine end grinding bit to remove the paint and a bit of wood from the area inside the trace lines. That got me back to fresh wood and then I just used wood glue to fasten the painted wooden stars. The back of the stars was not painted, so I got a good bond.

    It seems like something similar would work here but you still need to make sure you use the right glue to bond metal to wood. If it doesn't stay fastened, the nameplate will be a choking hazard the same as small screws would be. In some ways it may make more sense to screw it on with glued screws.

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