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    Yeah - as someone who's gone back to hide glue after avoiding it for 40 yrs, I can say it's not as difficult as I remembered. Apart from being easier to take apart when necessary, and bonding quite happily to any remnants of itself, it has several other useful properties, such as the instant 'grab' as it cools. For parts that would be very difficult to clamp, it can be very useful (and a real pain if you happen to put the wrong piece in, and don't discover it for a minite or so...)

    I've been using a 'proper' old cast-iron double boiler on the kitchen stove (got some funny looks from the other half at first!). It's a bit cumbersome, and sooner or later the inevitable is going to happen, as I wander through the kitchen and out to the shed with a fresh pot of hot water and glue. I'm looking for an old hotplate for the shed, but there have been several suggestions on this BB for adapting other appliances - one being a baby's bottle-warmer - but also saw another suggestion recently - can anyone remember what it was and jog my old-timer's-challenged brain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW
    but also saw another suggestion recently - can anyone remember what it was and jog my old-timer's-challenged brain?
    Ta,
    No, but I remember it was a good one, so you weren't imagining it!!! What about a "crock-pot"? They were pretty popular a good few years ago so are probably in their thousands at the op shops.

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    re the gorilla glue. I used it a while back and its absolutely fine, however, it is pretty expensive over here and my only real complaint would be the short shelf life once opened.

    It becomes very thick and it seals over in the bottle making re-use very difficult.
    I now use a product called Fast Grab, a polyurethane which has initial grab in 5mins. requires moist surface to start the cure process and it of course foams but its an excellent product and keeps much better than Gorilla while being every bit as good..
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    I dont know about Aussie, but Gorilla glue is readily available here in NZ, not silly prices, and it goes a long way.
    I've used it on a few projects and it works really well for simple screw and glue construction. Just dont intend on taking anything apart again... ever

    http://www.holdfast.co.nz/pdf/Boatgorillaarticle.pdf

    If you haven't used the stuff I recommend it. It has little chemical smell while curing, unlike a lot of other glues. Only problem I find with it, there is no initial holding by the wet glue, infact it's almost like a thick oil. So you have to clamp things in place properly or the foaming action will tend to make them creep around.

    Otherwise, highly recomended, especially if your woodwork skills are pretty basic

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingmidge
    What about a "crock-pot"? They were pretty popular a good few years ago so are probably in their thousands at the op shops.
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    Now you mention it, I think that WAS one of the suggestions. Might have a poke about the op-shops as you suggest.
    Ta Midge,
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    I think I could lay my hands on an old frypan at the right price, not sure if I'm game to suggest the crockpot.

    I just remebered where an old thingy was, like a mini deepfryer, would be OK. I might suggest this to SWMBO, it hasn't been used for ages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by outback
    I think I could lay my hands on an old frypan at the right price, not sure if I'm game to suggest the crockpot.

    I just remebered where an old thingy was, like a mini deepfryer, would be OK. I might suggest this to SWMBO, it hasn't been used for ages.
    The idea is to have the glue container clear of the boiling water so the temp of the glue in the inner (glue) container doesn't exceed about 60 deg (Celcius). Above this temp, the proteins in the glue start to degrade, and the glue strength will be seriously compromised. If you can whip mrs Outback's double-boiler (you know, those custard making thingies) out to the shed for the duration of the job, that would be perfect. As long as you clean up staright away while the glue is liquid, no worries. But if you forget and/or she catches you, well, it was fun having you on this BB, OB, old fella.....
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    A double boiler on a small electric one ring stove is ideal. If you don't have a proper double boiler two old saucepans will do. Place a small one inside the bigger saucepan and keep them apart with a small thick piece of steel, any 1" ofcut will do.


    Midge I spent ages looking for a crockpot in op shops but they were very scarce and the few I found cost more than you think. So I used an old frying pan for a while with the home made double boiler until I got the above. ( From Al's Craporium of all places ).


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    If you can whip mrs Outback's double-boiler.......................... As long as you clean up staright away while the glue is liquid, no worries. But if you forget and/or she catches you, well, it was fun having you on this BB, OB, old fella.....
    Hah Hah, your a funny fella, I'm too damn scared to even try. :eek:
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