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19th March 2012, 09:06 AM #1Novice
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Phenolic resin
Can anyone point me in the right direction - I am making furniture out of form ply and have struck a problem. The form ply has a phenolic resin coating to prevent concrete sticking to it - and it also prevents me face gluing it.
I need a bond that is able to withstand mild stress, dries quick and hopefully dries clear.
Big ask perhaps but there must be some thing in glue world to do the job without killing me in the process!
Any ideas ?
Adam
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19th March 2012, 06:21 PM #2The Russel Coyte of Woodworking
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Hi mate
to be honest I haven't had the best of success with this type of plywood.I made a router table top and it delaminated quick sharp! I would do the norm and rough up the surface and then use an epoxy but then its not going to be a quick set but it is clear.
Interesting your making furniture out of the stuff....what are you making may I ask?
I picked up two sheets of the stuff for $60 at Bunnings and going to use it for an assembly table top.
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19th March 2012, 09:57 PM #3Novice
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Milo thanks for the thought but the epoxy just will not stick It goes off then one thump and the bond breaks clean leaving no residue behind - I am after a heavy duty glue most likely a phenolic base that is rock solid.
I have been doing kitchen cupboards and doors but am moving on to stand alone furniture pieces that require glue joints - its a funky medium to use and is pretty hard wearing - the down side is the glue problem and that it only comes in a couple of colors deep red black and a brown. Its been used in ceiling lining and on bars and hip warehouse fit outs.
Its as slippery as hell and resistant to scratching.
Adam
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20th March 2012, 01:04 AM #4
Sand or router through the face layer of the ply (I think using the router would be easier) and re-try the epoxy. If sanding, don't go finer than 80 grit.
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20th March 2012, 10:06 AM #5
You may find this reply a bit "out there", but I recently experimented with form ply. I had to glue marine carpet to it.
Because it had to be water PROOF, not water RESISTANT, I used Turf cement.
It'd the stuff used to glue pieces of artificial turf together.
The glue itself worked. After 48 hrs dry time....the time recommended to reach water proof stage....I could not peel that carpet off. No how, no way.
Now, how it would go joining two pieces of formply is still unknown. And its not clear when dry. Might be worth an experiment though.
You can buy a litre tin at Bunnies for $18.
BTW...the form ply delaminated so the experiment was deemed a failure, but the glue itself worked.
Cheers
JimBeing happy doesn't mean everything is perfect. It means you've decided to see beyond the imperfections....
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20th March 2012, 02:41 PM #6Novice
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Sounds like it is worth a go.
Thanks very much.
In shear desperation I emailed one of the manufacturers and have asked the tech boffins if they have any idea.
Will post the answer if I get one.
What I did find out in researching it was they make formply in several grades the top one is extremely WR so may have worked for your project. Is is priced accordingly.
Adam
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20th March 2012, 02:57 PM #7Being happy doesn't mean everything is perfect. It means you've decided to see beyond the imperfections....
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25th January 2013, 04:05 PM #8
Adam just saw this post.
If this is Marine type ply its what we used for flooring in buses and coaches and some use it for transom? on boats. Fibre glassing resin is what we used to use when glueing pieces together.
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25th January 2013, 07:36 PM #9
You're a bit late Ray. This thread is nearly 1 year old. They were talking about form ply not marine ply.
This thread has just reminded me, I've got a full sheet of form ply in the shed. Slippery, hard wearing. Think I'll make an outfeed table with it and an extension table for the industrial sewing machine. Right, I'm off to measure up.Those were the droids I was looking for.
https://autoblastgates.com.au
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