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    Default PVA - titebond 1 but with longer assembly time

    Is there a PVA that is similar to titebond 1 (ie doesnt creep like 2 or 3) with a longer assembly time?

    PU glue is an option but sometimes I cant be bothered with the mess it makes

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    I do some failry complicated glueups with curves a lot of the time and I have traditionally always used TBIII. It became painful to go to silverwater to the carbatec store or wait from ebay (as well as the prices slowly getting more expensive) so I have switched as an experiement to sikaflex from bunnings, costs a little bit less than TB and is just as strong and durable. now on my 3rd 4lr bottle and still no issues. Ive never encountered creep or assembly time tack off issues so cant comment otherwise.

    Wood Work Adhesives

    I used to get the 20 odd litre TBIII from carbatec as a way to reduce the costs but again its not commonly available so is a pain. AFAIK sikaflex is made in oz...
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    Completely forgot about bunnings!

    I will try the sika glue.

    Anyone tried the Selley's indoor too?
    Selleys 500ml PVA Wood Glue Aquadhere Interior Adhesive - Bunnings Australia

    I tried the Parfix woodglue and it was very week - I know Selley's makes the Parfix - how does it compare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyu View Post
    Is there a PVA that is similar to titebond 1 (ie doesnt creep like 2 or 3) with a longer assembly time?

    PU glue is an option but sometimes I cant be bothered with the mess it makes

    Have you tried liquid hide glue?

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    Qwertyu,

    You’re clearly using large quantities of glue so I’d be thinking about another of the Titebond PVA family - Titebond Extend. It’s like the original Titebond but with an extended open time. I use it occasionally for complex glue-ups. Available in quantities from 16oz to 55 gallon drums!

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    Brian

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    Oops! Sorry qwertyu, just realised it was Zed not you who mentioned buying 4 litre bottles of glue. Still suggest considering TB Extend, though, as it’s available in smaller sizes too. Only downside I’ve found is it seems more prone to bleed through on veneers.

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    Brian

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    qwertyu. I'm no expert on glues but I've learned by harsh experience to suit the glue to the job. You don't say where you intend to use it but for my money you can't beat a cross-linking aliphatic type such as Gorilla or Titebond II. They have better properties for joints that might experience undue stress (e.g. chair joints) than regular PVA glues and also have some water resistance. I believe you have other alternative makes available in Oz such as Roberts 6355 and Max Bond PVA from H.B. Fuller. Selleys Aquadhere Exterior also meets the criteria (but not the regular indoor type). The experts recommend using a urea formaldehyde glue such as DAP Plastic Resin to avoid creep but I don't know what sort of open time this has.
    Pete

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