Thread: Securing Treads and Handrails

1. the sizes you give for the timber for treads, hand rails and risers are they finished sizes, ie the timber cut to size?

2. How did you intend/think you were going to attach these to the fame work?

In your position if the timber is already width sized simply use something like liquid nails and then use a good dress countersunk screw, eg solid brass about 12 gauge.
The screws will be obvious so make it obvious.

There are some other options but that depends on your skill level..

I am sure someone here will have a better option but its a start.

The sizes I gave are the sizes the timber comes from the shop. It is dressed but I still have to pretty the timber up before I fit it. For the half walls I want the edges to look like the edges on this table: Dining Tables - Lifestyle Jarrah - Quality Affordable Indoor and Outdoor Jarrah Timber Furniture
I was originally going to screw it down, but now I think the screws will look a bit out of place in such a nice timber.
So if I did a dowled join and some sort of glue would this be strong enough? I don't mind a bit of a challenge.
Any other thoughts or options I could use?

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Attached sketch of 2 steps and a riser.

Now i have used your board sizes as 285*32 (treads) and 190*19 (risers).

Each tread/step has 2 cutouts, one top and one bottom. Each cutout is 12.5 mm deep and 19 mm wide. You can make it 20 mm as that is not a real serious dimension and a bit of slack will help. The riser fits in these slots.

Each step./tread is fixed to the underlying frame using threaded rods glued into the under side of the step and passing through the support frame. You have enough room with the bottom frame to attach a nut to the thread.

I did not draw the frame and the thread rod bits in as I was not sure of the frame dimensions nor spacings.
In reality you should not have to glue any of this as the mechanical fixtures for each step should be sufficient. You should go for at lease 4 threaded rod sections per step.
To glue the rods into the underside of the step use a good epoxy.

There is a bit of fiddling about with lining up the rods with the holes in the stair frame but that can be overcome by using dowel marking centre points. They come in various sizes but the size is not a big matter here.

Drill 4 holes to hold the marking centers in the stair frame and force the step timber on to the frame. This will give you the 4 points in the underside to drill for the threaded rod pieces. Then just drill to correct size the holes in the stair frame.

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second option possibly more useful in your situation.

You will have to trim the current riser boards to 165 x 19 mm not teh current 190 x 19 mm.

This approach requires that you add 2 support pieces behind each riser to hold it in place. Mechanically fix and or glue the support pieces on each step. best to glue and screw them.

The risers can be added after you finish placing each step. Glue or use 4 screws in the corners into the support pieces.



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