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16th November 2010, 01:38 AM #181Intermediate Member
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I believe that I have http://us.oak-park.com/catalogue.html?list=RT01--Talked way too much already. I would be jeaving this post, if I can Copy the full link, and there is the router tablew, and U-tobe, or simular movie link to see. Enjoy! Check out the videos on the box joint system, and You will see what I enjoy about the system, and it is not hard to build.
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16th November 2010, 06:13 PM #182New Member
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A big thank you to all who have helped on my quest for the router table. I especially like the Vacuum addition on the oak park bench. I have not fulfilled my promise to build myself the perfect table yet, however have been thinking about it a lot. I will attempt when I get time, and let everyone know how I go. In the meantime happy woodwoking to all the woodies.
Cheers Nanoo
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23rd November 2010, 02:42 PM #183Template Tom
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I have been monitoring the number of views this topic has had since it was first posted and a great number of the members have been giving their advice on what is good and what is bad re certain aspects of construction.
It was some 40 plus years when I made the decision to insert the router under the table, and it was a simple board inserted in the Vice.
I have since made a number of router tables to increase my routers potential and I have two already set up for use whenever I wish to use them. I also have a couple of Triton Tables where I can insert the router at any time.
What I did not realise at the time I was spending making the tables was that I was restricting the number of processes the router is capable of producing. There is no doubt in my mind that the table router is essential for a number of processes, but I have come to the conclusion that more can be achieved if we take the router in the hand held position.
Maybe we could start a thread on what we have achieved with the router in the table mode, and list all the processes to produce an article.
Such as:
(1) Routing the frame work of a door with the Panel Door Bits
(2) window sash and rail bits
(3) Raised Panel Door bit
(4) Mitre Lock Bit
(5) Jointing bits
(6) Finger Joint Bits
(7) Face Moulding Bits Numerous designs
(8) Stair Handrail bits
(9) Edge forming bits (possibly the most popular bit to be used by many)
(10) Rebating Bits
(11) Slotting Cutters in various sizes
(12) Straight Bits also spiral Cutters
(13) Edge and Face Edge Cutters
(14) Trimming Cutters
(15) Dovetail cutters
(16) Edge forming Cutters
...................and many more
The sample of cutters I refer to have been selected from an Australian manufacter produced in Victoria
Router cutters 1-7 ...I would certainly not use any other method than the router table. Obviously the remainder can be used in both modes Table and Hand held.
Most common use of the table would be
(a) adding the decorative edges to such Items as table tops.
(b) Producing dovetails (Special Jig Required)
(c) Adding trenches
(d) Mortice and Tenon Joint
(e) Half lap Joints
(f) Inserting Biscuits
(g) Trimming Material to size
(h) Template work reducing to suit the 'Male' Template
(i) Some may attempt 'Pin Routing'
I am sure others can add more to the list
I have enclosed a number of projects requiring a number of routing processes that are not possible to be produced in the table mode IMHO
TomLearn new Routing skills with the use of the template guides
Log on to You Tube for a collection of videos 'Routing with Tom O'Donnell'
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27th November 2010, 05:22 PM #184New Member
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I absolutely agree that the work must never go between the fence and the bit hence the sacrificial facing on the router side of the fence. It houses the spinning bit and then the wood can be fed along and cotact the bit. The fence controls width of cut (among other things)and the router height controls the depth. Anyway this being a design forum not a safety one i'll leave it there.
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13th April 2011, 07:24 PM #185
Hi everyone, I've been away from the forums for a while but I'm in the process of building (another) router table and this thread has really delivered.
I'm working on a combo bench to house both under table router (centraly, toward the front) and drop saw on an outrigger off one end, I'd like to run a fixed fence across the back edge maybe 150 from the back to leave room for glue and other everyday items to stand. The table top is ~2400 x 900 at this stage. I plan to build a seperate router specific fence and there is plenty of room (no incra style overhead out the back of the fence).
Can anyone think of why you would want to have the top of the router table completely clear and is trying to combine the docking saw a bad idea? I generaly use the table for biscuit joining, raised panel doors and trimming panels to width (no panel saw) all of which will still be possible...Cheers,
Shannon.
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14th April 2011, 09:49 AM #186
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1st May 2011, 04:16 PM #187Novice
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Hi
Can anyone recommend a good instructional book on routing (learner)
Many thanks in advance
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1st May 2011, 05:52 PM #188GOLD MEMBER
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1st May 2011, 09:06 PM #189Novice
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24th May 2011, 11:33 AM #190Novice
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how important is it to have a router plate in a router table. I watched a Gifkins video and he doesn't have one in his. Seems like a plate could cause problems.
KR
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24th May 2011, 12:02 PM #191
Krittgers, think of a router plate as a zero clearance insert in your table saw. You match the router plate with the router bit to give as little a hole as possible so your stock doesn't nose dive and become a nasty accident.
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6th June 2011, 01:12 PM #192Intermediate Member
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If you have some electrical skills, you can make your own DOL starter, using a contactor and a couple of push buttons. Knock up a quick ply box enclosure for it, or buy one cheaply from a wholesaler.
This will be much cheaper than buying a full DOL starter. As long as the power into the machine comes from a plug, it is not illegal to do this, as it isn't classed as fixed wiring.
This is what I will be doing for my own router table build in some shiny future
I have plans to have the start and stop buttons running through a contactor to a front panel, which will also house the speed control for the router, switches for the work lights, and the up / down buttons for the motorised height adjustment. I'll probably screw a bottle-opener on it too.
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11th June 2011, 07:57 PM #193New Member
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My router table experiments
I've included a few photos of my new and old handmade router tables (the old is the table saw extension modification) to try and cut down on the words I have to use here and you have to read...
The new table frame is of loose tenon construction, the timber sourced- some may say scavenged- from a friends old stairs that got replaced. The top is 2 sheets of 19mm MDF laminated together for strength and oiled to seal. I chose not to coat this one with a laminex finish as I did the old one, mainly for aesthetics.
The insert is made from 8mm acrylic with smaller inserts made to reduce the bit opening. Gravity holds it in its rabbet and the fit is snug enough that there is no sideways movement. I took pains to make sure all was perfectly flush and there are no mitre slots to grab dirt and dust and more importantly, to weaken the top. On that subject, any cross cutting like tenons or dadoes is completed on a sled that has its runners referenced along the sides of the table. I'll put up a photo if theres any interest when its finished.
The fence is more recycled timber chosen for straight grain, jointed carefully and glued at right angles. Glue is important because once all is dry, run it through the jointer again to ensure absolute squareness. I then made MDF facings that can be closed right up on any bit to get a nice zero opening. They are regarded as consumable. If you look at the photos, you'll see I use my shop vacuum for dust collection at point of cut, at the fence.
In the old table I can mount a jigsaw in an insert as a poor mans bandsaw or just a plain insert to have a normal tablesaw side wing.
This was all hand made and so fairly cheap. The MDF and fence hardware was about $30-35. The acrylic was rummaged from a scrap bin at a plastics firm and I guess I used about $5 worth of wood oil. The timber was recycled and so free and as it was mortise and loose tenon construction, theres no hardware there. The top is fixed to the frame with angle iron that I ensured was straight and square and cost about $20 including screws.
I can recommend Bill Hylton's 'Woodworking with the Router' as a great book and the main source of ideas here.
Hope this helps someone out there.
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12th June 2011, 01:05 AM #194
I put this up in the safety forum for those looking for the no volt release assemblies.
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f67/cu...6/#post1327876
JNorton, your control box sounds almost exactly like what I have been planning. It is making its way to the top of the list so hopefully posting soon. Consider the bottle opener idea stolen
Stanley#5 that is a nice looling table, well done.Cheers,
Shannon.
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12th June 2011, 11:54 AM #195New Member
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Thanks Robomanic.
The table will later be getting a removable cabinet to house the router and assist with dust collection as well as a drawer under that. I was planning to incorporate the switch assembly then, but I honestly hadn't thought of the bottle opener. There is always so much to learn... I will also be pinching that idea methinks.
Cheers