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15th December 2003, 02:21 PM #1Enthusiast
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CMT Sommerfeld Junior raised panel sets
has anyone had any experience with this router bit set?
I am looking at buying a set to use with box making projects. The thing that puts me off is the price -around $269 at Carbatec.
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15th December 2003, 07:09 PM #2
I have a standard sized CMT raised panel set, it's great, no problems.
All the joins fit together snugly, everything went great.
Even when I ran the big orange helicopter (panel bit) at standard router speed, there no vibrations (my router is single speed).
Before you all tell me what a naughty thing this was to do, I agree, and you have my word that it (probably) won't be used again untill I by myself a new (variable speed) router.
Ben.
This is what I made.
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16th December 2003, 01:54 PM #3Enthusiast
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Dear Ben, nice work -is this your own design?
What is the minimum thickness of timber the standard set will handle?
Finally, what profile is your set?
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16th December 2003, 06:30 PM #4
Dereg.
Thanks for the compliment, unfortunately I borrowed the overal look of the peice from one of my favorite insperation web sites ( http://www.berkeleymills.com/index.cfm (I have about 56)). The table isn't quite finished, the front panels are actually drawers, I just can't decide weather to go with home made matching timber handles, or a nice brass 'drop handle'.
http://www.superiorbrass.com//index....=1000&cat2id=3
Opinions anyone?
As to the minimum thickness, the standard boxed set wil happily go down to 18 mm (probably 1 or 2 less if your carefull).
However, because the flat back of the panel doesn't line up with the back of the rail/style, you can also expect the front to sit proud (about 4 or 5mm at a guess).
So, because I didn't want that, I bought the slightly smaller panel bit that will work in timber down to 15mm, and sit about flush at the front (part No. 890.502.11). ('B' on the link below, not 'B2')
http://svc010.bne011i.server-web.com....html?cache=no
The rail/style set is 891.502.11. (set 'B' on the link below)
http://svc010.bne011i.server-web.com....html?cache=no
A picture tells a thousand words, so the links will show the profiles.
Ben.
Ps. there is no maximum thickness
Thats about the longest post ever for me.
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16th December 2003, 08:25 PM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Sorry to hijack your post Dereg
Ben - that's really nice work - I like it a LOT Personally I wouldn't go for antique looking hardware on it though - either solid matching wood, or (my preference) modern hardware.
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17th December 2003, 02:05 PM #6
The Carbatec advert in the December issue of Australian Woodworker has the CMT Three Piece Kitchen Set for $199, normally costs $299.
Cat. 800-513-11
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17th December 2003, 02:15 PM #7Originally posted by Ben from Vic.
As to the minimum thickness, the standard boxed set wil happily go down to 18 mm (probably 1 or 2 less if your carefull).
However, because the flat back of the panel doesn't line up with the back of the rail/style, you can also expect the front to sit proud (about 4 or 5mm at a guess).
So, because I didn't want that, I bought the slightly smaller panel bit that will work in timber down to 15mm, and sit about flush at the front
Ben.
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17th December 2003, 06:06 PM #8
Sprog,
Using a back cutter is often handy with odd sized timbers, but the cutter (that comes with the set) needs 18mm of timber to have enough for the tongue and the shape of the profile.
If you move the tongue so that it's at the middle of the 18mm not the back, you'll lose part of your raised panel effect.
The minimums quoted are pretty acurate, but with just a little thought, the maximums can easily be gotten around.
As long as you bear in mind the depths and profiles of the panel and frame can't be changed much (on the front).
Drawer your self a full size picture, and you'll see what I mean.
So, the sale price is a beauty, but remember, if you buy the set, your panels will stick out. If that doesn't bother you, then the sale is a ripper.
DarrylF.
thanks for the compliment, you've talked me into posting some more pictures (in the appropriate section).
How 'bout some modern/asian looking handles?
Ben
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17th December 2003, 08:42 PM #9Enthusiast
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Dear Ben, the handles you have pictured would look good -the table has an oriental look which would compliment the handles
Dereg
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18th December 2003, 01:57 PM #10Originally posted by Ben from Vic.
Sprog,
Using a back cutter is often handy with odd sized timbers, but the cutter (that comes with the set) needs 18mm of timber to have enough for the tongue and the shape of the profile.
I really ment to say with your new smaller cutter you could use a backcutter with the 18mm panel to get a flush front and back
Did I say nice work?
Hey really nice work )
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18th December 2003, 07:51 PM #11
Sprog,
Ahhhh, I see.
You can also buy a raised panel bit with a back cutter, I didn't (because of cost) but it could be a great idea.
And, thanks.
Ben.
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18th December 2003, 09:19 PM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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Ben,
I like the idea of carrying through with the modern oriental look - maybe get those handles and stick them in place with double sided tape & see how it looks?
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2nd January 2004, 08:56 AM #13
Back to the question, I have a Sommerfield Junior set. it is brilliant typical CMT quality, and able to make tiny panels I just wish I had time to use it more.
Cheers
Neil
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