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    Default Constructing a Router Lathe from #115 of Shopnotes

    Hi all,

    I was recently given some old Shopnotes magazines, and found an article in #115 on a router lathe Router Milling Machine - YouTube.

    I have been interested in this concept for a while and having read the article, it looks to be well designed and something I could make with the tools I have available to me.

    As with all things, there is one part that has me stuck unable to move forward.....what is a ACME threaded rod, is there a standard thread count for a 1" (which is what they state for this jig) and how do I source one in Australia.

    As usual this has to be the critical component to the process, as I understand the way the thing operates, by turning the handle you are rotating the work piece, and depending on the gear selection, also turning the ACME threaded rod at a certain ratio to the work piece, so obviously just adding something similar, but with different thread count is going to result in throwing out the ratios.

    I have googled this to an extent, and I think that they have used a general purpose ACME threaded rod, which I think I have determined is a 5 threads per inch, but that is an awful lot of "thinks". The article does not really go into too much detail about the threaded rod or nut (other than to say it is 1" x 55.25" long rod, and the nuts are 1"-5 ACME nuts, which is the other reason I am thinking that means 5tpi).

    Although it needs to be somewhat accurate, I don't think backlash is as much a concern as say for a CNC machine, so I am wondering what my options in Australia might be.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers,

    Camo

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    Default Constructing a Router Lathe from #115 of Shopnotes

    I think an acme thread has very clean, sharp edges and flats. If you look at a length of thread from the side, if it looks like a row of old castle turret tops its an acme thread, eg a series of squareish groves separated by a flat. If its got sharply pointed threads, like a series of ^^^^^^ then it is not acme.

    You might have to go to a engineers supplies to find it. Can't remember seeing it in the green shed.

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    Here ya go Camo

    I think you're right about the 5 tpi
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    Those were the droids I was looking for.
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    There was a thread going in the metalwork section last year discussing a manufacturer in the Melb Northern suburbs who was preparing to retire who had a factory full of ACME Thread in various sizes and materials, plus the nuts to go with it. They were slowly clearing stock, and might be gone by now, but worth a search.

    It is commonly use for leadscrews on machine tools, and has been for a long time. If you cannot get something new, you might be able to get a lathe lead screw and half nuts from a machinery reconditioner or scrapyard. An out of tolerance unit for a lathe would be quite accurate enough for your needs.

    Failing these avenues, you could possibly try ebay for a suitable size ballscrew and nut, but would probably have to make some variation to the gear train to achieve the required feed pitches.
    I used to be an engineer, I'm not an engineer any more, but on the really good days I can remember when I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camoz View Post
    Hi all,

    I was recently given some old Shopnotes magazines, and found an article in #115 on a router lathe Router Milling Machine - YouTube.

    I have been interested in this concept for a while and having read the article, it looks to be well designed and something I could make with the tools I have available to me.

    Check out this thread Router Turning - Router Forums especially this post Router Turning - Page 2 - Bruce Nelson and other posts by Bruce.
    Arie.

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    Thanks guys for all the input. I am starting to think that if I can't find the threaded rod I am after, or at a reasonable price, I might try combining the gears with cog and chain arrangement just for moving the router (like the one from router magic as shown in PDF format in this post Router Forums - View Single Post - Router Turning). I already have the chain and a couple of sprockets, so it won't cost me anything to try, and it gives me an opportunity to try it without investing much more than time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Breezy View Post
    Check out this thread Router Turning - Router Forums especially this post Router Turning - Page 2 - Bruce Nelson and other posts by Bruce.
    That post really does go through a lot, glad you pointed me to it, I did a lot of googling, but for some reason didn't find that post.

    Cheers,

    Camo

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    Oh wow, I've never seen one of these before. Didn't even occur to me they might exist. Who needs a lathe with one of these things! Gonna have to get one somehow now.

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