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    Default They dont make them like this any more

    Today i had to help my brother-in-law clean out his father's shed (his father is moving in with him after his wife died in November)

    Anyway we found the router pictured below, dont know how old it is but the instructions show 6-digit brisbane phone numbers and the router was made in england by black and decker. Brother in law and i fought over the router, I lost, so i got it. This thing is so primitive you lock the plunging mechanism by winding the 2 big handles!!!! Mind you it was a pioneer for one spanner bit changing - even though you lock the collet with a tommy bar!!! price on the box was $148.00. ive seen better for under $50.00 today

    I also scored the plane in piccy 2, not sure if its any good but it seems flat and square in all the right places, can you darksiders tell me any more about it?

    Box 3 is labelled martin-baker ejector seat cartridges (Father in law was in the air force) so we opened that box with much trepidation, only to discover it contained wire brushes and drill mounted sharpening stones.

    I just thought i would share these little treasures with the forum members

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    I can only tell you about the Ejector cartidges. Filled in 1959? Probably fitted to Vampire aircraft.

    Regards,

    HarryM

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    G'day Doug,

    Now I know where Dremel got their design for their plunge router base attachment for the Dremel mini hand tool

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    Doug,

    Black & Decker used to make good quality tools. That old router may be a bit crude in terms of today's designs but I'll bet it's well-made with metal bearings instead of plastic etc.

    The plane looks like a 4½ smoothing plane. Falcon-Pope made good tools. Clean it up and give it a bit of a fettling and a tune and you'll have yourself a good plane.

    There is plenty of advice on fettling and tuning planes on this BB. Have a bit of a search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Driver
    Doug,

    .....

    The plane looks like a 4½ smoothing plane. Falcon-Pope made good tools. Clean it up and give it a bit of a fettling and a tune and you'll have yourself a good plane.

    There is plenty of advice on fettling and tuning planes on this BB. Have a bit of a search.

    Col
    NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! your best bet is to send it to me!!

    I'll look after it for ya............ honest!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorPanic
    NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! your best bet is to send it to me!!

    I'll look after it for ya............ honest!

    sorry, major, its a family heirloom now, my son will get it when they can prise my cold dead fingers from around its handles

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    Ya fitted it to the orange beast yet?
    I may be weird, but I'm saving up to become eccentric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!
    Ya fitted it to the orange beast yet?
    yep, it fits into the triton planer attachment like it was made for it, skew

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    Yer right DOUG, they don't make 'em like that anymore,and I've still got my Black & Decker router exactly same model with locking handles that "ER Indoors gave me as a gift back in the times when there were less concerns about things such as Visa overload ...there were'nt even Visa's then.

    Still got the book that came with it somewhweres and until recently had the small router table that I got with it but have passed that on to a bloke starting out in his woodworking and would now make some use of it.

    Great little router( my first in a long line) OK for 1/4" shaft bits and still occasionally handy and works a treat.

    Cheers
    Johnno

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Saxton
    Great little router( my first in a long line) OK for 1/4" shaft bits and still occasionally handy and works a treat.

    Cheers
    John, can you remember what year you bought it in, im justcurious about how old this thing is. it was still in the box it came in, although it has seen a bit of use, and that is not unusual for the Father in law, i just want a rough idea of how old it is

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    this falcon pope plane is gonna need a bit of work, im just starting to pulll it apart and theres a lot of surface rust and some other issues, soi will start a thread under handtools and machinery for the plane, please feel free to contribute there and i will leave this one openfor the router

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    Gotta hazard a guess here Doug but I reckon around 79/80 thereabouts not exactly sure but gonna be in that time frame.

    It's not a bad little router Doug,and its real handy I reckon with that unique locking mechanism on the handle.

    Enjoy

    Cheers
    Johnno

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    There's no printers' mark on the bottom of the box or its' inner flaps?

    That may give you an indicator of what year the box was printed in, at least.
    I may be weird, but I'm saving up to become eccentric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!
    There's no printers' mark on the bottom of the box or its' inner flaps?
    How did you guess?

    No, Skew, nothing on either the box or the instruction leaflet. best clues there were 6-digit phone numbers, thats gotta be a while back!

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    Doug,
    In 1993 I bought one of those routers in Malta when I had a problem in the deck of my yacht and needed a router to repair it. I paid 35 pounds Maltese for it ( about $100 Aus) and figured that if it lasted the job I was doing alright. Well I still have it, and it still works but it is not really my router of choice when I am doing a job. I still stick to my Makita routers.

    Rhys H.

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