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  1. #1
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    Default I've confused myself - too many choices

    I've decided I want a good router table and fence.

    This I know:
    I want to do dovetails and box joints, from small boxes to furniture pieces on it.

    I currently have a GMC router table with a Triton TRA-001 mounted in it (the table is drilled for the through-table height winder). It's OK for edge-routing but thet table's too small and the fence too flimsy for much else.

    The Triton will go in my new table and not come back out of it - I have other routers for hand-held use. I have a big shed and am happy to give over the room for a good-size table.

    I have a Kreg mitre gauge on my table saw that I like very much - so do I go with the Kreg fence (interchangeable stops with the mitre gauge - I like interchangeability)?

    I want to buy from a local supplier. I don't mind spending a reasonable amount - but I only want to spend it once. I want to set up a "forever" table.


    This I don't know:
    Do I want a cast-iron top or a wood (with laminate skin) top? Do I make the table top and fence myself, using an insert plate (which one? phenolic or aluminium?) and tracks? Do I buy the table top and fence - or one or the other? Do I put an Incra positioner (which one?) behind the fence? Do I buy a Leigh jig for the dovetail/box joint use and not put a positioner on the router table fence?

    So, the options:
    Table cast iron (Carba-Tec RT-660), wood/laminate (made), wood/laminate (Incra, Kreg, Woodpeckers, ProRouter)?
    Insert plate: none (only w/ cast iron table), phenolic (Kreg, Woodpeckers), aluminium (Incra, Woodpeckers)?
    Fence: cast iron (c/w cast iron table), wood (made), aluminium (Kreg, Incra (standard or Wonder))?
    Incra positioner: none, original, Ultra Lite, LS?


    It all seemed so simple until I actually started thinking about it...

    Rather than "I've got an xx and really like it" type replies - can anyone give me some insight as to why choose what?

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    Oh - I should have added to the options:

    Buy a Leigh jig for the joinery work and stick with what I have for the edge-routed, guide-bearing-supported work.

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    I started off with the old Triton router table and top (before the 2000). I had a makita router and swapped it in and out of the table. When i got sick of that i purchased the big Triton router to put in the table. next purchase was a laminated router table top and good fence which just sits on top of the old Triton table legs (not even attached- the weight holds it). Now I'm getting a bit frustrated because the Triton router is really good for the Leigh jig but I need to use it out of the table. There is a lot of mucking around to use the Makita router in the Leigh.
    Why am I telling you all this when you said not to say I've got xx?
    Well maybe your routering will evolve. You may end up with 2 Triton routers, one in the table and one to use freehand on the leigh jig. A solid fence is important. They are usually made of MDF but there are grades of MDF.
    Hope this helps,

    Graham

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carry Pine View Post
    I started off with the old Triton router table and top (before the 2000). I had a makita router and swapped it in and out of the table. When i got sick of that i purchased the big Triton router to put in the table. next purchase was a laminated router table top and good fence which just sits on top of the old Triton table legs (not even attached- the weight holds it). Now I'm getting a bit frustrated because the Triton router is really good for the Leigh jig but I need to use it out of the table. There is a lot of mucking around to use the Makita router in the Leigh.
    Why am I telling you all this when you said not to say I've got xx?
    Well maybe your routering will evolve. You may end up with 2 Triton routers, one in the table and one to use freehand on the leigh jig. A solid fence is important. They are usually made of MDF but there are grades of MDF.
    Hope this helps,

    Graham
    You're just down the hill from me...

    I'm thinking if I go the Leigh path, the Triton will stay in the table anyway - it's a big, heavy bugger. I'd use one of my smaller routers on the Leigh jig.

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    Yep, I got the small Triton Router for my leigh jig and it's perfect for it. I use it as a leigh jig dedcated router for my mortise and tenons. I also got an old Black and Decker router in new condition off ebay and it was not cheap either, I use it in my leigh dovetail jig and it's right for that also. The Leigh template guide fits it straight out of the box. Hope this is some help and the dovetail jig is not as difficult to use as some people say, you just have to spend some time with it and use the set up and practise cuts to learn how to use it.

    SB
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhewitt View Post
    You're just down the hill from me...

    I'm thinking if I go the Leigh path, the Triton will stay in the table anyway - it's a big, heavy bugger. I'd use one of my smaller routers on the Leigh jig.
    Problem is the fitting and purchase of guide bushes to fit the different cutters. I was lucky enough to buy a box of guide bushes for the Triton from carbatec for $25.

    Graham

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carry Pine View Post
    Problem is the fitting and purchase of guide bushes to fit the different cutters. I was lucky enough to buy a box of guide bushes for the Triton from carbatec for $25.

    Graham
    With the leigh jig you just buy one guide bush to suit your router. Leigh make differnt types to suit most routers.

    SB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superbunny View Post
    With the leigh jig you just buy one guide bush to suit your router. Leigh make differnt types to suit most routers.

    SB
    Guide bushes required = 5/8 (15.9) for timber 16mm-32mm and 7/16 (11.1) for timber 6.3mm-20.6mm and all half blind dovetails.

    Graham

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carry Pine View Post
    Guide bushes required = 5/8 (15.9) for timber 16mm-32mm and 7/16 (11.1) for timber 6.3mm-20.6mm and all half blind dovetails.

    Graham
    I was thinking of the D4R Dovetail Jig that only requires one guidebush the Leigh e-bush that does other leigh jigs and fits over 100 models of router, pages 69 and 70 of the manual. I'm sure you can use other bushes and in combination the two mentioned but the Leigh e-bush does them all for leigh jigs. I would add that the Leigh jig system such as the D4R is expensive and If you don't do much dovetailing I'd look for a cheaper option.

    SB
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