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    Default Min Shank Length

    Just wondering what the minimum shank length required to hold a router bit firmly in the chuck we be.

    Just received my new brass router guides today and the equivelant brass one is longer than the Makita one I bought locally.

    In the picture I have roughly 20mm of cutter exposed, with a guide height of 13mm (33mm total to base) I am guessing that will still leave me about 5mm short when using an 18mm template and cutting 18mm MDF.

    Carefully undoing the nut and measuring how much is being held, I measure 13mm being gripped on a 1/2" shank dia router bit.

    My reckoning would be I need to buy a longer cutter... agree? disagree?

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    Cheaper to just cut the new guide bush but this may mess with the concentricity (ap?) of the bush.

    It does look a bit long hey? You do get longer bits but they are mostly made for Leigh Dovetail Jigs.
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    The thought crossed my mind to cut the guide but that wont gain me anything since the length of the guide (13mm) is shorter than the thickness of the template (18mm), only if the guide was bottoming out on the material below would it help to shorten the guide.

    I could make a thinner template but that would mean buying more MDF which also costs money.

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    Now you can see the reason for the 40mm Guide as the chuck will penetrate through to give you greater depth
    Learn new Routing skills with the use of the template guides

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeadScratcher View Post
    The thought crossed my mind to cut the guide but that wont gain me anything since the length of the guide (13mm) is shorter than the thickness of the template (18mm), only if the guide was bottoming out on the material below would it help to shorten the guide.

    I could make a thinner template but that would mean buying more MDF which also costs money.
    Essentially you've chosen the incorrect thickness of material for template making. I think you have three options;

    1. Thinner template material
    2. Longer shank/cutter
    3. Router collet extension (I don't know if this will work specifically with your guide bush though)
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    Longer shank cutters are available from Carb-I-Tool here in Australia Long series, Solid carbide (single flute)3.2mm,4mm,4.8mm,5mm,6,mm.6.35mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Template Tom View Post
    Now you can see the reason for the 40mm Guide as the chuck will penetrate through to give you greater depth
    The router tightening nut actually goes inside the guide, so not sure how much more I could gain from going deeper. I only pushed down as far as it stopped perhaps I could rotate the 3 step screw thing to allow it to go lower.

    Getting back to the original question (because there are a few solutions, including making a new thinner template) but how much of the cutter shaft needs to be in the chuck to be considered safe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeadScratcher View Post
    Getting back to the original question (because there are a few solutions, including making a new thinner template) but how much of the cutter shaft needs to be in the chuck to be considered safe?
    Read point 2 here CARB-I-TOOL Safety
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    Thanks Breezy Great link, also told me what router speed I need as well.

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